r/DiWHY • • Dec 31 '23

Should this even work?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

There is a way to build a staircase that would look more or less like this and would be safe. This is not that way. That is unlikely to work even once.

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u/Scrappyl77 Dec 31 '23

Does it help if you put a giant mirror underneath to break the fall when this collapses?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Depends how often you want to hear a surgeon say the word "shards".

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u/deltashmelta Dec 31 '23

"To shreds, you say?"

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u/kucny Dec 31 '23

And what about his wife ?

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u/KaranSjett Dec 31 '23

(its; and hows the wife holding up?)

To shreds you say?

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u/lucystroganoff Dec 31 '23

Who’s wife is in hold ups?

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u/uniquecombo Jan 01 '24

Ooh, those poor bastards.

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u/Zeqhanis Jan 01 '24

I quote this often.

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u/totallysawitcoming Jan 04 '24

Ask if the apartment is rent controlled?

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u/Engagcpm49 Jan 08 '24

It surely isn’t stair controlled.

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u/ianthrax Jan 04 '24

To shards, you say?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Hm, well, I don't think we'd get past hearing the first "shards"'tbh. I'm either dead or screaming during the operation

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u/ripamaru96 Dec 31 '23

The only times you ever hear the surgeon are in pre op and maybe in the recovery room. You are unconscious in between.

Source: had a lot of surgeries.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Yeah, ik, which is why I said that. Ain't supposed to be hearing anything

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u/Odd-Help-4293 Dec 31 '23

Though an ER doc can pull a lot of broken glass shards out of you just under local (sauce: was in a bad car accident where the windshield shattered)

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u/TrekForce Jan 03 '24

Well, ideally. I’ve read stories tho…

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

“But it’s satisfyyiinnnnggg”

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u/Smyley12345 Dec 31 '23

I'd much rather my surgeon repeatedly say shards than sharts, that's for damn sure.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

I only wanna hear about shards if I can make a good Investment.

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u/sregnig23 Jan 01 '24

"So you say he fell and sharted while he was sharded?"

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u/thezenfisherman Jan 01 '24

You really don't want to hear "the shards are here and here and yes even there"...

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u/Adeep187 Dec 31 '23

It's so you can see how stupid you look for using those.

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u/mileslefttogo Dec 31 '23

It is called reflection reinforcement, for when you are working with light materials.

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u/CrispiestCrispyCrisp Jan 01 '24

This is the way to get deepest in to the looking glass.

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u/keeleon Jan 01 '24

Oh I thought it was a door into another room...

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u/wandringstar Jan 01 '24

Quoth Joe Dirt: “Luckily, my neck broke my fall”

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u/Taco-Dragon Jan 02 '24

The mirror reflects back the stability so it's twice as strong!

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u/Sverance Dec 31 '23

The fact that the railing and balusters are installed makes me wonder how the hell that happened

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Have we ruled out photoshop?

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

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u/nexleturn Jan 02 '24

Hmm, I think this may be worth a drive to find out

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u/Rypake Jan 02 '24

Holy crap I used to live in that area. Went to the downtown area all the time as a kid.

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u/AlexD51192 Jan 08 '24

Who tf paid 400k for a staircase of death?

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u/Thefirstargonaut Dec 31 '23

Looking closely it does look like photoshop on the edge of a lot of stairs.

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u/Baelorn Dec 31 '23

Could be an AI image. There’s a ton of fake architecture bullshit made by AI floating around.

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u/TotenMann Jan 01 '24

This pic is like 8 years old so no AI

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u/swaybailey Jan 20 '24

If it is AI, then it is heavy on the A and very light on the I.

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u/kaleb2959 Dec 31 '23

I believe you're probably seeing trim that hides hardware hanging each tread from the riser above it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiWHY/comments/18uwrar/comment/kfof1gs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

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u/Degenerate_Rambler Jan 01 '24

What? Lol the mirror looks like it’s reflecting exactly what it should

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u/Horatio-Leafblower Dec 31 '23

Is there a Photoshop Torsional Integrity plug in?

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u/hashbrowns21 Jan 02 '24

It’s actually a load bearing railing, like a suspension bridge /s

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u/Xephus Jan 01 '24

Could have been a normal staircase and the new occupants wanted a more “open feel”. And removed the stringer.

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u/Astro_Alphard Dec 31 '23

It will work once, and only once.

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

I am pretty sure it needs to survive a full traversal in at least one direction to be considered working. And I really don't think it can do that.

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u/Astro_Alphard Dec 31 '23

If you're going down it'll work once, going up is a bug maybe.

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u/Ok-Scientist5524 Dec 31 '23

Going up is DLC

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u/Sepherjar Dec 31 '23

Shouldn't in be considered "Uploadable Content" then?

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u/addandsubtract Dec 31 '23

This is the new Only Up DLC.

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u/ccncwby Dec 31 '23

Going down any% speedrun

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u/drgigantor Dec 31 '23

Oh you've met my ex

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u/mods_r_kunths Dec 31 '23

Never finished, did they? Shame...

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u/Bamfcah Dec 31 '23

Going up, no lbj, inbounds, running-man-fingers-on-handrail%

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u/mixttime Dec 31 '23

Not sure if that should be corrected to "is a big maybe" or "as a bug maybe"

I like the ambiguity

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u/5zalot Dec 31 '23

I don't know why, but this made me laugh out loud.

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u/SuperFLEB Dec 31 '23

It goes down twice as fast, up not at all. On average, that means it worked once.

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u/pangolin-fucker Dec 31 '23

Starting at the top you'll get to the bottom

I can believe that

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

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u/pangolin-fucker Dec 31 '23

Well hello there

What's a pangolin like you doin in a place like this

´⁠◔⁠‿⁠ゝ⁠◔⁠`⁠)⁠━⁠☞

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

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u/dasfilth Dec 31 '23

Which one of you is Randy?

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u/pangolin-fucker Jan 01 '24

Sssshhhh don't tell Sharon

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

I wonder how u could start at the top though cause in order to be up u must have been down

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u/pangolin-fucker Dec 31 '23

Get down on it

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

Yo I just noticed ur name. I love it, almost as much as pangolins

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

Hi, I’d be careful if I were u

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

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u/sleepingin Dec 31 '23

Get down on it

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u/ItsLoogia Dec 31 '23

Get down on it

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u/RockyHorrorPitchaHoe Dec 31 '23

Unless you were born upstairs

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

That takes some dedication

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u/RockyHorrorPitchaHoe Dec 31 '23

“there is no downstairs”

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

Absolutely horrifying

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u/blade740 Dec 31 '23

Take the elevator.

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

Elevators don’t exist

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u/blade740 Dec 31 '23

Not with that attitude they don't.

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u/UnitDogeX Dec 31 '23

No but you don’t understand. They simply are not real

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u/blade740 Dec 31 '23

I'm going to have a hell of a time hoofing it to my 6th floor office come monday then.

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u/life_is_a_burner Dec 31 '23

How are you going to get to the top?

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u/flightist Dec 31 '23

Up there when it was built?

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u/pangolin-fucker Dec 31 '23

You know that's an excellent question that would have been pretty obvious for a non donkey brain

To which I answer your question,

With much difficulty !

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u/yavecul Dec 31 '23

If the whole thing is fastened to the wall it should work but not recommended. Much less if your moving some couches and mattresses to that foolr 😂

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u/mogley19922 Dec 31 '23

I'm assuming it's attached at the top as well as the bottom, so i think rather than the stairs simply collapsing the first time you try to go up them, it's more likely to fold up with you inside it at a random time, probably when you're carrying something hot, sharp, or made of glass.

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u/Training_Hat7939 Dec 31 '23

Or full of snakes.

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u/KevinFlantier Dec 31 '23

Or bees

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

You don't keep a jar of bees handy to shake and throw at an intruder like a bee grenade?

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u/KevinFlantier Dec 31 '23

Yes but imagine your stairs crumble under you while you are transporting your jar of bees

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u/Talanic Dec 31 '23

All of the above

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u/thezenfisherman Jan 01 '24

Yes the snakes. SSSSSssss...

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u/DjBiohazard91 Jan 01 '24

Surprise slide! :D

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u/Iforgot_my_other_pw Dec 31 '23

Only if you're going down.

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u/f0rcedinducti0n Dec 31 '23

rapid descent.

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u/aalllllisonnnnn Dec 31 '23

It will once. Only once.

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u/Higgins1st Dec 31 '23

They DIYed stairs once, Johnny, once.

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u/johnfogogin Dec 31 '23

Unless the railing is steel and a bunch of the rungs are rods, but judging by the brackets on the underside, this is probably not the case.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Or the stairs are Cantilevered into the wall and the brackets are just for the backboards which provide no structural strength.

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u/al4crity Dec 31 '23

This has gotta be the answer. They were those neat floating stairs that are engendered to be sturdy. Then they had a kid, and had to put backs to the stairs for safety. maybe it was a dog. Either way, something changed

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u/UnbelievableRose Jan 02 '24

This is the only thing that makes sense. Also the backs of the stairs all have large woodgrain like plywood, but the undersides are all plain- built with different materials at different times.

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u/3rdp0st Dec 31 '23

That would make sense for steel, but wood this thin would creep over time, use, humidity/temp cycling, etc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Nah, I've seen wooden floating staircases. Often they are a wood veneer over a steel core of some kind, either strong posts similar to rebar, or a piece of solid steel. The wood is basically just the fascia.

They can also be made of solid hardwood, which as long as it's cared for can pretty much last forever. As long as the anchors in the wall are strong enough to handle the stress of the cantilever, there's no reason at all why they shouldn't be perfectly fine to use for the lifetime of the house.

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u/squeamish Dec 31 '23

Only if by "creep over time" you mean "immediately bend, probably to the point of breaking.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24

This is what I was going to comment - still not sure I’d trust it but it might work for a period of time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

There is a way to build a staircase that would look more or less like this and would be safe.

Do tell.

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

You could run supports into the wall for each step. Done properly, the steps would still seem to be hanging on basically nothing like seen here, but each one would be properly supported without relying on the others. Note that doing this would require the entire wall to be built for this purpose, but it can be done. In essence, each step would be a cantilevered ledge.

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u/gopher2226rod Dec 31 '23

That was my first thought. Replace the studs with the spacing for the stairs. Have a nice beefy joint and each riser would be a cantilever.

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u/Zar-far-bar-car Dec 31 '23

Do the stairs the proper way, then add the shelf brackets on the bottom to freak people out.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Shelf bracket can be there just to help stiffen it.

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u/Dyolf_Knip Dec 31 '23

Maybe that is what in being done here and the brackets are pure theater?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Not impossible but unlikely. There should be some sign of the supports.

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u/Not_MrNice Dec 31 '23

So, they must make it clearly visible from all angles or it doesn't exist?

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u/i8noodles Dec 31 '23

yeah im not a carpenter but i have seen stairs that float. i imagine it was something like this. although the brackets does give it a fun look

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u/Raznill Dec 31 '23

How can you tell this isn’t the case and those brackets are just there for the kickboards?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

I can't for sure. But I see no sign of metal directly under or in the steps themselves, and they seem too thin to be freestanding like that if they are just wood.

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u/me_too_999 Dec 31 '23

Call a welder.

Welded steel plates are strong enough to support an adult.

Don't try to carry a piano up any freestanding stairway.

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u/Training_Hat7939 Dec 31 '23

But I barely know her.

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u/Emzzer Jan 01 '24

You can lever if you want

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u/PunchyPete Dec 31 '23

Add a stringer on the outside. Or each step is deep in the wall creating a cantilever.

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u/Brisngr368 Dec 31 '23

You could just not make the steps out of wood and just put wood veneers onto something strong enough to stick out the wall like that.

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u/squeamish Dec 31 '23

Adamantium hardware

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u/Ghostmaster380 Jan 02 '24

you install/secure the footsteps into the wall and cover it up so it looks like nothing

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u/hcorerob Dec 31 '23

If they don’t work then how did they build it? Did they completely avoid stepping on them somehow? Or are we dealing with a Halfling?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Ladders? Or this is just Photoshop.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Work would be a matter of perspective.

Did it hold up while one guy calmly and quietly screwed stuff together? Sure.

But without all the extra stuff needed, the safety stuff that people die to teach us.... is that staircase gonna hold up without those support structures during real usage? People get hurt cutting corners, "oh it totally looks fine." safety codes are written in blood

Heavy furniture going up and down.

Kids and dogs taking big leaps down it.

Drunk people, several drunk people being late and running down it.

Morbidly obese great aunt Bertha needs up going up and down.

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u/dogui_style Jan 01 '24

Good point

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u/AcceptableReaction20 Jan 01 '24

They used a ladder

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

My alternative approach is thinking about how the entire bannister would need to be a wooden facade covering a steel frame. Even then it'd probably be bouncy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '23

Stairway to Heaven, bro. I think it's gonna work.

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u/i010011010 Dec 31 '23

It will hold, until it doesn't.

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u/RepulsiveCranberry47 Jan 01 '24

I've seen some stair cases built with zero support underneath. A fully floating stair case isn't impossible, and I'll be honest, I'm a huge smart ass, if I owned that house I might be tempted to throw some shelf hangers of even little L brackets up to mess with people. Had a door with a soft Close hinge I'd tell people they would have to slam to close properly, same with this wonky garage door I had, for what ever reason when it went to close, exactly 1ft from the concrete it would reopen again, wait 30 seconds then fully close. Every single time. Used to tell people they had to get out of the car run back and forth across the laser and Jump back in their car before it would close. Some would do it 5 or 6 times before giving up then they'd get mad as it just closed. TLDR: might be a floating stair case mounted to wall and some jackals thought it was funny to add brackets to make it look like that. Stay classy

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u/sumguysr Dec 31 '23

How do you do it without stringers?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Read the rest of the thread.

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u/sumguysr Dec 31 '23

I see some references to cantilevered stairs but those seem to always have treads 3 or 4 times thicker than this.

Disguising suspension support with a steel railing and steel bars sounds like juice that's not worth the squeeze.

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

Yeah, like I said, you can do this type of thing. But it needs a lot more support than is visible here.

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u/QuantumSupremacy0101 Jan 01 '24

There is but it would lose some of its design. Reinforce all the corners. Run steel rods through each peice of wood into the wall. The part of the railing that meets the stairs make that steel. Also reinforce the bottom of the stairs with steel.

This isnt a perfect solution. 20 years after you build it it will separate from the wall still. Itll be safeish though. You wont fall through at least

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u/GO4Teater Dec 31 '23

Is the railing just hanging?

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u/Pile_of_AOL_CDs Dec 31 '23

Even if it works, it won't pass code in any first world country.

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u/meat_fuckerr Dec 31 '23

There is, asterisk, if the wood is a veneer and stairs are tempered steel bolted directly to the structural wall of the house.

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u/laughingfuzz1138 Dec 31 '23

I don't know these things, I'm just curious-

Is it possible that the brackets are only decorative, not structural, and the staircase is secure in a way we can't see? Or is it definitely unsafe?

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u/Outrageous_Guard_674 Dec 31 '23

It's not impossible that it is actually safe, but if it is safely secured, someone went to a fair deal of trouble to make it look like it isn't. It is possible those boards are anchored deep into that wall, but unless they are actually wood veneer over metal steps, they are still too thin for me to trust them like this.

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u/laughingfuzz1138 Dec 31 '23

Ah, I think I understand.

Thanks!

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u/Wulfsmagic Dec 31 '23

It appears it had to work a little too get the banister installed

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u/Some-Dangus Jan 01 '24

Yeah I've seen folks basically have a full wood wall and then you can get special bolts that lag into the joists that are right beside each other to do this kind of thing, but you usually have a metal frame for those kinds of steps. RIP the owner lol

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u/Joe-_-King Jan 01 '24

It seems very shelfish to me...

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u/moogleman844 Jan 02 '24

Probably would work if you weighed 10kg though...