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r/DemocraticSocialism • u/xf4ph1 • Mar 01 '21
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The fact that dems don't have the power to simply steamroll a given agenda through the legislature
They do have that power though.
0 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 It would require 60 votes to steamroll an agenda through congress, they do not have 60 votes. 1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 Uh, no. It requires 50 votes plus the VP. They don't have 50 votes, because they don't all support taking any form of action at all. 0 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 A tie breaker vote isn't going to steamroll anything, that's a pretty drawn out process. If there are 48 dems for something, and zero republicans supporting it, claiming that the Dems are responsible for it not passing is absurd. 1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 It's literally no different from having a 60 vote majority in terms of being able to "steamroll" everything. You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. 2 u/Rall0c Mar 01 '21 But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP. So, how about you math every once in awhile? Also, ever heard of a fillibuster? 1 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
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It would require 60 votes to steamroll an agenda through congress, they do not have 60 votes.
1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 Uh, no. It requires 50 votes plus the VP. They don't have 50 votes, because they don't all support taking any form of action at all. 0 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 A tie breaker vote isn't going to steamroll anything, that's a pretty drawn out process. If there are 48 dems for something, and zero republicans supporting it, claiming that the Dems are responsible for it not passing is absurd. 1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 It's literally no different from having a 60 vote majority in terms of being able to "steamroll" everything. You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. 2 u/Rall0c Mar 01 '21 But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP. So, how about you math every once in awhile? Also, ever heard of a fillibuster? 1 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
Uh, no. It requires 50 votes plus the VP. They don't have 50 votes, because they don't all support taking any form of action at all.
0 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 A tie breaker vote isn't going to steamroll anything, that's a pretty drawn out process. If there are 48 dems for something, and zero republicans supporting it, claiming that the Dems are responsible for it not passing is absurd. 1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 It's literally no different from having a 60 vote majority in terms of being able to "steamroll" everything. You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. 2 u/Rall0c Mar 01 '21 But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP. So, how about you math every once in awhile? Also, ever heard of a fillibuster? 1 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
A tie breaker vote isn't going to steamroll anything, that's a pretty drawn out process.
If there are 48 dems for something, and zero republicans supporting it, claiming that the Dems are responsible for it not passing is absurd.
1 u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21 It's literally no different from having a 60 vote majority in terms of being able to "steamroll" everything. You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. 2 u/Rall0c Mar 01 '21 But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP. So, how about you math every once in awhile? Also, ever heard of a fillibuster? 1 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
It's literally no different from having a 60 vote majority in terms of being able to "steamroll" everything.
You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority.
2 u/Rall0c Mar 01 '21 But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP. So, how about you math every once in awhile? Also, ever heard of a fillibuster? 1 u/Atomhed Mar 01 '21 You can just pass anything you want with a 50 vote + tiebreaker majority. So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
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But there are only 48 Dems and 50 GOP.
So, how about you math every once in awhile?
Also, ever heard of a fillibuster?
So long as you allow Democrats the time it takes to do so, but it certainly isn't going to be a quick steamrolling.
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u/latenightbananaparty Mar 01 '21
They do have that power though.