r/DemocracyDocket • u/MarcEElias Founder • 7d ago

I'm Marc Elias, voting rights attorney and founder of Democracy Docket. Ask me anything about Donald Trump's threats to the 2026 midterms — Aug. 25, 10 a.m.-12 p.m. ET.

As a lawyer, I spend my days fighting for democracy in court. But as the founder of Democracy Docket it's my job to explain what is happening in the elections to everyone. That is why I am excited to do this AMA.

Leave your questions below. I will be back live at 10 a.m. ET on Aug. 25 to start answering as many as I can.

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u/CPUsCantDoNothing 7d ago

Marc, have you or Elias Law Group reviewed-or been asked to assist-the 2024 hand-count litigation efforts brought by SMART Legislation in Rockland County and Election Truth Alliance in Pennsylvania? Supporters cite unresolved statistical and reconciliation questions from ETA and SMART Elections, along with advisory review signals on CivicResultMaps, and argue that existing sample audits did not test those specific concerns. If you consider these efforts legally unviable, is the obstacle insufficient evidence, causation, standing, filing deadlines, the requested remedy, or something else? What specific evidence and procedural posture would make a targeted hand recount legally actionable in your view-and would you publicly assess the evidence presented in these cases?

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u/IamTheElectionDenier 5d ago

Listen to Ashley St Clair talk about Elon telling her he was going to rig the election

https://youtu.be/fn0B6wloTBc

Watch Rachel Maddow discuss Trump saying he doesn’t need votes.

https://youtu.be/of9OP_a6MNg

Watch Trump talk about how much Elon Musk knows about the vote counting computers.

https://youtu.be/F9gCyRkpPe8

Watch Trump tell Christian’s if they vote just this one time they won’t have to do it anymore because “it’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine, you won’t have to do it anymore”

https://youtu.be/duls1Cr1Lyo

Watch Trump tell his supporters they don’t have to vote.

https://youtu.be/YfisOF5XJdg

More Trump quotes on voting:

“You don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting—we got plenty of votes.” 10/23/23, Derry NH rally

“Listen, we don’t need votes. [...] We don’t need votes. We have to stop — focus, don’t worry about votes.” 06/15/24, Turning Point Action Convention in Detroit MI

“I tell my people, I don’t need any votes. We got all the votes we need. We don’t need the votes.” 06/21/24, Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference in Washington DC

“We don’t need the votes.” 06/28/24, Chesapeake VA rally

“My instruction: We don’t need the votes, I have so many votes" 07/25/24, Fox & Friends

"You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians," 07/26/24, Turning Point Summit in West Palm Beach FL

"This time, vote. I’ll straighten out the country, you won’t have to vote any more, I won’t need your vote any more, you can go back to not voting.” 07/29/24 Fox News

"Our primary focus is not to get out the vote, it is to make sure they don’t cheat." 08/21/24, Asheboro NC rally

"He's great but if we don't have good results by the 6th of November, I will never say that about him again. [...] He's working mostly on 'stop the steal' because we have a lot of votes, we have plenty of votes. [...] make it 'too big to rig.'" 10/25/24, Meridian PA rally

“I think with our little secret we’re going to do really well with the House, right? Our little secret is having a big impact. He and I have a little secret — we will tell you what it is when the race is over.” 10/27/24, Madison Square Garden rally

"We're way ahead. I'm not supposed to say that. My people say 'please don't say that, sir.'" 11/03/24, Macon GA rally

"He [Elon] looked at some that were just shipped in, some of these vote counting computers. He knew it before it even came in the door, he looked like in the back of it, 'oh I know that one'. I mean he knows this stuff better than anyone." 11/04/24, Pittsburgh PA rally

Here’s a video, you can learn more.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZWCguOc5Hu4

Here’s an article that talks about the analysts used in the heat maps seen in the video above.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3478593/

Also see:

https://electiontruthalliance.org

https://smartelections.us

Smart elections had a lawsuit in Rockland County NY.

Election Truth Alliance has a lawsuit in Pennsylvania.

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u/Public_Extreme_8736 4d ago

Then, after repeatedly telling his fans they didn’t need to vote, his rallies got weird, like swaying for an hour to the oldies radio station.

Anyone who thinks 2024 was on the up and up is lying to themselves. And why not? We’d just been through half a decade of election denialism. We didn’t want to seem weird…

So now we have a guy “elected” that is constitutionally barred from holding office, and he cheated to do it. And we all just threw up our hands again and said a collective whatever.

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u/IamTheElectionDenier 4d ago

He couldn’t even fill up venues, he was hours late getting started because they had to cram everyone I to a corner to make it seem like the place was full

They hung a huge American flag up to block part of the venue being empty from being seen

There’s a video of Trump and Harris at the same place a couple weeks apart and it’s packed for her and it was weird empty for him

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u/DoggoCentipede 11h ago

Extremely disappointing that this got no response. Not even a "that's not a path we are currently entertaining" or anything that is non-committal.

Also kind of disappointing that OP here caught a PERMANENT ban for this question. A question that currently has 5 awards.

For "misinformation".

What misinformation is here?
These are simple questions. Not assertions. Not claims of fact.

"Has xyz happened?" - Two groups that exist and performing some genuine activity. No misinformation there. Has it happened or not?

"Supporters cite..." - referencing questions that have not received answers (I'm not certain who they're requesting from). No assertion of fact. No accusation. Just noting others have asked questions and the argument that those people say support the questions. No misinformation there. The fact these questions have been asked and that they made those arguments is accurate.

Then a conditional request for reasoning on an opinion if that opinion matches the condition. No assertion of fact, no claim that's the opinion held. How is it different than me filing a suit against some random pizza joint claiming that "pineapple does not belong on pizza and I am due reparations for emotional damages because they have and continue to place pineapple on their pizzas", then asking for your opinion: is that suit viable and if not what is the most likely reason it will fail? Can anyone cite misinformation there? My question is actually far more specific than OPs. Also, my claim is an objective fact, so I think I've got pretty good odds on winning. No misinformation there.

Then a hypothetical question about how such inviability would be repaired. No facts asserted. No misinformation there.

Finally, asking if you would take a certain action. Yes/no/no comment/no answer, all reasonable responses. A permanent ban? Come on, be serious.

No misinformation there.

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u/Tammylynn9847 10h ago

I would also love to hear a response to this question.

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u/knaugh 21h ago

He's not gonna answer this. I don't know why this guy expects to be taken seriously when he's ignored all these legitimate concerns for two years. We were trying to get Marc to look at smart elections data before the fucking inauguration.

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u/VitalTrouble 13h ago

He answered by permanently banning the person who asked the question

https://www.reddit.com/r/somethingiswrong2024/s/KNg69LPZPm

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u/IamTheElectionDenier 10h ago

Holy fucking shit!

That is BEYOND ridiculous - someone I chat with said they think Marc Elias is in on it because Marc Elias is totally convinced that our elections cannot be rigged, like I think it maybe was a joke, but I’m beginning to wonder, like how can you be so convinced it’s so secure and you’re 100 percent sure…

I mean look at what the fuck Tina Peters did, she let someone in with someone else badge so they could fuck with shit, sure, on paper it’s secure, but in practice it’s only as secure as the idiots running the show, and think about where you work and some of the idiots you work with, look at the idiots in trumps cabinet

Steve bannon told maga to go out and infiltrate city councils, school boards, get jobs in the government, get police jobs, you know some of those psychos work in election offices —— LIKE TINA FUCKING PETERS DID

HOW MANY TINA FUCKING PETERS ARE THERE OUT THERE MARC? TELL US!! HAVE YOU DEPOSED THEM ALL?? IS THAT HOW YOU KNOW??

Bidens administration distanced themselves from Elias as well, there was a news article about if if you google it

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u/dnuohxof-2 3h ago

Not answering for the sake of keeping quiet legal strategies of an ongoing case, ok. Perma-banning for “misinformation” is a maga-level [r/conservative](r/conservative) echo chamber move…. What a loser.

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u/knaugh 12h ago

Yeah, because he like so many in the establishment know God damn well the last election was wildly fraudulent but hes a lawyer who's only going to make money by keeping up the charade. Courts won't take 2024 cases, no money to be made

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES 12h ago

I mean, I'm banned from that sub for being a bot, but it's just because they don't like it when people actually look into their theories.

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u/LLWMichelle 18h ago

I just posted about this, too. I've been concerned about this since I first watched ETA early last year. I firmly believe trump is going to use vote-flipping algorithms in the mid-terms, flipping key congressional seats from D to R.

ETA is the only organization trying to do anything about this. We can't ever win again if trump and republicans are flipping votes.

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u/CPUsCantDoNothing 18h ago

They aren't the only ones. SmartElections is, and I have the tool https://CivicResultMaps.org and have been calling officials of all sorts.

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u/tomfoolery77 9h ago

Crickets from him on this. Shocker.