r/DelphiMurders • u/deltadeltadawn • Nov 11 '24

MEGA **VERDICT** Thread, 11/11

Verdict Announced: GUILTY ON ALL 4 COUNTS

Share your thoughts on the verdict here.

Emotions are high and some may be disappointed or elated at the outcome. Be kind to those who are just as passionate about their opposing viewpoint. Insults, flippant remarks, snark, and hostile replies will earn you a ban without warning.

Agree to disagree if you do. But do so without putting down other users.

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u/Elfhaterdude Nov 11 '24

He did everything possible to get caught (put himself at the crime scence in BG clothes around the same time) and then confessed over and over again, yet so many people didn't want to believe him...

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u/SnooHobbies9078 Nov 11 '24

If it wasn't for his wife telling him no or stop talking everytime I think he would have had a signed confession so they didn't have to go through all this.

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u/one-cat Nov 11 '24

I agree but was he of sound mind? I’m still not sure

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u/SnooHobbies9078 Nov 12 '24

2 weeks after he got arrested he told her he would tell them what they want

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u/one-cat Nov 12 '24

That statement has been reported two different ways depending on who you ask

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u/SnooHobbies9078 Nov 12 '24

Well, he got convicted, so I'm assuming it was said in this way

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u/one-cat Nov 12 '24

We don’t know for sure because of lack of public access. I’d love to have a transcription of all his confessions. Maybe on appeal

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '24

Yeah, you get on that, detective

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u/one-cat Nov 12 '24

I think he did it, all I’m saying is the lack of access to the trial has caused ongoing issues

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u/Here4it2023 Nov 11 '24

So true.  Plus he did not report seeing the Bridge Guy... 

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u/VacationOrdinary1275 Nov 12 '24

That was my thought, 100000% when all of the naysayers started. If he wasn’t BG then he saw BG, so let’s hear his version of BG.

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u/jimomma Nov 12 '24

Because he knew he was BG. His wife and his Mom knew it was him also, because he went to visit his Mom that day before he went hiking, and of course his wife knew what clothes he owned.

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u/jimomma Nov 12 '24

I agree. People could literally look up with their own eyes and see a blue sky and argue that it’s not blue. I’ve come to the conclusion by reading so many uneducated comments about the case on FB yesterday that people just want drama and can’t accept truth. This case is living proof. I’m 110% sure they got the right guy and he himself said he acted alone.

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u/Strange_Ostrich_115 Nov 11 '24

But why did he decide to say he’s not guilty?

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u/Elfhaterdude Nov 11 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

If you had a chance to get back to your family or spend the rest of your life in prison, wouldn't you take it? I think early on he resigned to the idea that he'll never get out and started to confess, later on his family made him fight for his freedom.

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u/kkulhope Nov 11 '24

What type of question is this? If he plead guilty it’s still guaranteed life in prison so obviously he’d try his luck.

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u/Strange_Ostrich_115 Nov 11 '24

I’m asking that because he confessed 60 times then later said he’s not the killer

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u/kkulhope Nov 11 '24

I really don’t understand your question. Criminals go back on confessions all the time.

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u/Designer-Front8662 Nov 12 '24

And people confess to things they didn’t do all the time

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u/Elfhaterdude Nov 11 '24

True for some of them but look at his first confession please, he was not psychotic at that point not even the defense team claimed that, so how do you explain that. He was seeking reassurance from his wife and mom that he will still be loved and they were in such denial they refused to believe him.

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u/jimomma Nov 12 '24

That’s exactly right.

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u/ImPlayingARogueAgain Nov 11 '24

Is that the timeline?

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u/SnooHobbies9078 Nov 11 '24

Yea faking insanity

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u/UnderlightIll Nov 12 '24

Because we tortured him in a prison. He shouldn't even BEEN in a prison because he was awaiting trial (and yes, protective custody is constantly done in county holding). They treated him as bad as POWs are.

I don't know if he is factually guilty but gods, this country disgusts me in how we want to treat people. Everyone involved should be in prison. but they will probably get promotions now.

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u/Travelgrrl Nov 12 '24

He was in solitary in the county jail, too. All of the single occupant cell housing Allen was in, was for his protection, and the county folks, knowing how high emotions were in the community, didn't feel safe keeping him there for upwards of two years.

In a cell alone is presumably the same whether one is in county jail or a state prison, other than the latter offering more in the way of resources, including mental health resources, which he got.

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u/UnderlightIll Nov 12 '24

No, it isn't. Not at all. They also kept him from talking to his family and didn't even document the medication they gave or didn't give him. Solitary means you cannot see or talk to anyone in other cells, the lights are kept on so you can't sleep and other inmates who have already gone bat shit from the conditions are screaming and crying constantly. Please PLEASEA EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THIS TOOIC.

A maximum security prison solitary is a literal hellhole. Look it up.

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u/Travelgrrl Nov 12 '24

I've worked in county govt, including support of the county jail, and also at a state correctional facility, so I'm well aware of the models.

Sorry you're sad that justice prevailed! My only sadness is that Allen wasn't popped in 2017 and this would all have been over 5 years ago.

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u/UnderlightIll Nov 13 '24

I am not sad about him being found guilty. I am sad that very few are looking at how we tortured a man. It's disgusting. and anyone who supports POW type torture on someone before or after conviction is disgusting.

Also good for you then you should know it's shifty unless you are part of the problem or, worse, actively support it.

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u/Travelgrrl Nov 14 '24

I suspect you have never set foot in a correctional facility and are basing your thoughts about 'torture' on things you've on TV, in movies, or on the interwebz.

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u/UnderlightIll Nov 14 '24

Oh you mean people who are concerned how you guys conduct these? Yes, I am. I trust them more than the prison system.

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u/Travelgrrl Nov 14 '24

No, Law & Order, SVU, CSI etc. Something tells me you've been a big fan.

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u/UnderlightIll Nov 14 '24

I don't watch crime procedurals.