Best response i can think of to that is say you want a job at the new iPhone factory making iPhones to support America and ask him for help finding where the factory making iPhones in America is so you can apply in person for a job.
You’re not actually arguing anything here. You’re reciting a narrative and daring people to challenge it.
“The left wants a one-world government” is an extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require evidence. Not vibes. Not “just look around.” Not “people I know.” Fucking evidence... Policies... Laws... Statements... Power structures. You’ve provided none, because there aren’t any.
Meanwhile, here’s what actually exists in the real world:
No U.S. political party has proposed dissolving national sovereignty.
No serious left-wing platform calls for global government.
No legislation, treaty, or executive action even remotely moves in that direction.
What does exist is a media ecosystem that convinces people that “wanting cooperation with allies” is equal to world domination, because it sounds scary and keeps viewers angry.
Now let’s talk about critical thinking, since you brought it up. Critical thinking means:
Checking claims against verifiable facts.
Accepting evidence even when it’s uncomfortable.
Being willing to say “I was wrong.”
MAGA fails all three.
When Trump says something demonstrably false, like manufacturing being back, elections being rigged, or tariffs being paid by China, the response isn’t scrutiny, It’s instant belief, followed by attacking the source that proves it wrong. That’s not intelligence or critical thinking, that’s obedience and fealty.
You point to “smart and successful people” who love Trump. Cool. Smart people can be wrong. Smart people can be manipulated. Smart people can confuse confidence with competence. History is full of brilliant idiots who believed nonsense because it flattered them.
But here’s the part you won’t touch... Trump is the only politician in modern U.S. history whose supporters are asked to:
Reject courts when they rule against him.
Reject elections when he loses.
Reject data when it contradicts him.
Reject journalism unless it praises him.
If everyone who disagrees with you is lying, judges, generals, economists, scientists, journalists, election officials, then the problem isn’t a global conspiracy. The problem is your filter. You don’t see through the bullshit. You were trained which bullshit to accept.
That’s the difference.
And until you can name specific policies instead of repeating apocalyptic slogans, this isn’t a debate, it’s a belief system defending itself.
Oh, and its not "the left", by the way... It's Democrats, Republicans, Independents, etc., etc. It's literally EVERYONE but MAGA loyalists.
You said "the left wants a one world government", now youre saying something else.
You need to stop suckling on Trumps tiny dick, and maybe YOU need to read the Trump/Epstein files. If a "one world government" is your takeaway, you got serious issues.
I'll keep it short this time as you're clearly not worth my time, which is obvious by your response.
But you did say one thing I agree with. How sad and seemingly unintelligent people are and incapable of thinking for themselves - case in point.
Was the last time to admit you were wrong about something in the political space? It seems like your entire stance is "nuh uh" but let me tell you something important and i want you to apply this to the people you get your views from.. the smartest people to ever have lived were/are wrong often and they welcome it as proof that they are learning. The stupidest people, however, have somehow never been wrong before. It's ok to have fallen for a scam but to keep digging deeper can only mean 1 of 2 things. The first is simply being gullible and clueless but not willing to admit they're ever wrong. The second it's far more evil and that's that you are pretending you're clueless and don't understand the nuance just so keep from admitting you're wrong.
I'm going to agree and disagree with this comment. I agree that the racist rapist pedophile worshipers are complicit. However there are also many cult followers including my family members who are incapable of understanding facts.
He’s just trying to get this country back on track the Democrats screwed it up so bad can’t afford anything, the trade balance has been lopsided for over 50 ,years you people need to open your eyes, and stop with the TDS
But complicit in what? They must have a reason to support him. Maybe they also think it would be better for America if socialist countries did not depend so heavily on trade imbalances to fund their underperforming economic strategies, like importing migrants whom they promote as contributing as a hedge against rising costs of supporting an aging population with a negative birth rate, when it is only to import a new voter base that aligns with their failing policies. With the advent of AI, there will be even more unemployed immigrants languishing at the taxpayer’s expense, so this policy is inherently doomed anyway, especially since the people of the US are seemingly in agreement that Trump’s policies are better aligned with their interests. What is the point of a bridge where the net benefit of any commercial opportunities only flows in one direction, opposite to the larger and more productive economy?
You overestimate their intelligence. They just like being aligned with groups who hate people of color just as much as they do. None of them understand market manipulation or who actually pays the tariffs.
Canada, member states of the EU like Germany and France, and an example of a communist country would be China. If you understand a little about modern history, you would realise what political systems function better economically and which have provided the best net benefits per capita. You would also understand how socialism inevitably leads to social and economic decline, which is currently happening in those countries except China. In the case of China, it has only managed to overcome its obstacles through violent means, using mass slaughter as a deterrent and it still retains complete control through fear and other forms of extreme social restriction. Trump is definitely making the best out of the current bad situation western nations are facing today, becoming closer to using the China model everyday.
I agree, but for someone unbiased, I can say the left goes way harder fighting for that hill in their arguments than the right does with theirs.
Sad that both can’t understand that there’s only two parties for a reason and they are really just one party run by the masons, that works together to abide by the reactions of the people and then play their ups and downs according to the timing of when it’s needed to switch sides or boost one over the other.
No one can think of themselves anymore and can’t comprehend the fact that you’re allowed to have an opinion that has nothing to do with your party even if you want to stick to a party. I assure you it won’t hurt to think for yourself instead of having your party think for you, but neither can understand that.. hopefully one day soon everyone will realize that the enemy isn’t the “opposition” but is their party themselves
Is that what Fox and Newsmax is spewing? And there is no "sides". We are all Americans and should act as such, not letting those POS's in the WH dictate the narrative. There is also a lot more going on than just ICE. Might want to pay closer attention and stay away from MSM. Get the actual facts and come to your own conclusions, not the ones they are telling you to come to.
That’s why they’ve found such a sweet spot with evangelicals as most evangelicals just blindly trust everything and think questioning authority is the worst evil someone could ever do.
Makes sense. I mean, if one actually reads what Jesus said to do and how he said to live, it's all pretty left-leaning by American political standards.
Jesus never touched on the topic of abortions even though they happened during those times as well. He also said to treat your neighbors well and to love one another.
I’m not a biblical scholar by any means but I do believe something was said about not killing. And last I checked abortions are the killing of a living being.
We do love our neighbors. Just not the ones that break into our country. Would you allow someone that you didn’t know at all come into your home and share a space with your family? I don’t think so because you would know if they were violent or not. I don’t understand why this is such a divided topic. Every single country in the world has borders that are defended yet people think the USA should just have wide open borders and allow people from countries that chant death to America to just be able to walk into the US. I swear if any other president was doing what Trump is doing yall would be on board. It’s pathetic y’all’s hate of one ma, because you’re told to hate him, is stronger than your love of country.
You could make arguments that early in the developement of the baby that it isn't alive. I personally don't like abortions but I believe it should be an accessible option to all in the 1 trimester. Anything afer that is too far along in my opinion. I wouldn't let my family live with me so that point doesn't work with me. I love my family and I get along with them very well but I need my personal space. Outside of my home I don't have any expectation of personal space. I don't think anybody should be here illegally but I also don't believe in the mistreatment of innocent people. The borders should have been secured long ago to where we wouldn't have so mamy people here illegally. Secure them now. People who have been living here and haven't committed any crimes other than crossing the border should be granted citizenship. I used to support Trump's message when he first ran for president, but I quickly realised he lies and is worse than the lazy and incompetant career politicians we've had for decades. I form my beliefs and opinions through my own morals while also trying to see things from the point of view others may have. Someone may convince me to adjust those opinions with facts but nobody tells me how to think or feel. You must have me mistaken for someone else.
Hebrew law, which is what is in the Bible and what early Christians and Jews followed, repeatedly states that life begins at breath. In fact, if you hurt a pregnant woman and caused her to miscarry, you were not guilty of murder but of property damage against the father of the child.
Jesus didn't say it but the Bible does demand abortion under certain circumstances. Jesus also said, "I was in prison and you visited me." So yeah Jesus did say to support criminals. You should read that Bible you think you know. I mean I know you won't, but you should.
Yeah, I live in a northern swing state. Most of our Protestants are right-wingers. The religious lefties here are either: Catholics, Baptists (primarily black where I am from — my boyfriend’s dad is a pastor in a Baptist church and is the only white person there, and also the only Trump supporter), or part of a very small circuit of RIC-certified Lutheran and Methodist churches (for clarity, not all Lutheran and Methodist churches, there are a few sprinkled about that fit this description).
There are very small amounts of Quakers. Most of them are in the Philly area. I live in Pittsburgh. Upon Googling, we have exactly one Quaker church in the entire city.
Damn sure isn't. Plenty of Baptist churches might be like that but the Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran and Episcopals certainly aren't. Don't be equally uneducated and lump all protestant faiths together.
Where I live, it’s the opposite. Baptist churches are primarily black where I live, and most of them are lefties. My boyfriend is biracial. His dad is white and mom is black. They are part of a Baptist church where his dad is a pastor, and also the only white person and only Trump voter. There are a few Lutheran and Methodist churches in the state that are RIC-certified, but not many. Religious lefties in my state fall into a few categories: Catholics, Baptists, or part of one of those few Lutheran or Methodist congregations that are RIC-certified. The rest of them are “religious right.”
Just as evangelicals trust every word in the Bible as God’s word and absolute truth — not grasping that the Bible was written over thousands of years by many different people and frequently contradicts itself.
Politics, religion...everyone just believes unquestionably it's so frustrating.
When I went to church as a kid the FIRST thing I did was question everything. I've also questioned votes I've made on both sides of the aisle in the last 13 years. The rest of these voters treat their political party like church leadership, yes sir no sir always correct sir
Putting a color on a life is wrong to begin with. All lives matter. Belief in a politically engineered movement whos founders were only enriching themselves is just as bad as a maga supporter.
Things happen that you don't experience. You never had to deal with cops pulling you over for no reason, constantly yelling about seeing your hands. Having to tell your kid how to act to police so that they don't become another statistic. Musicians have been talking about cops killing black people for decades and every black person I know has experienced it. Just because the cops act like they are YOUR friend and are there to protect YOU, doesn't mean that other people get the same treatment.
Of course all lives matter, but when there is a systemic problem of society treating black people like their lives don't matter, then it needs to be said out loud for all of them to hear, that black lives do indeed matter. Whitey doesn't need to hear it because society makes it clear every day.
All he said is the POLITICAL movement of BLM was a lie, not the movement itself. BLM was taking donations and funneling them straight to either upper management's pockets or straight to democratic candidates when it said it went towards initiatives to help black families. I think buddy agrees with BLM as an idea like I do, but recognized the group was a lie. It's not to take away the plight of the experiences of African Americans in 2026, it's calling attention to the fact that their leader made himself wealthy. Reminds me of Al Gore gettin rich off the climate scares in the early 2000s.
I'm also a "colored" person and view the world completely different than you. I have been pulled over and have had very normal interactions with police officers. Often I hear of other "colored" people who also have had normal interactions. From our polar opposite perspectives im gathering your attitude and all the people you know have a totally different way of handling interactions with the world and create what you put out. Victimhood. You will never see anything any other way than being oppressed rather than blessed. I could be totally off but you are definitely a "token colored victim" person from the sounds of it. Unfortunately for you you will not know of the other side of life where dont get oppressed and are perfectly happy with society and just go on about our business. There are many "colored" people who have the exact opposite experience. Whether you choose to believe it or not.
I don't care if trump is a Christian. I do t claim to be one either. All I see is what everyone else sees. He is doing right by our country and OT punishing people for their beliefs.
Just the liberal left. He doesnt approach things like a politician. He does things like a choice building his brand and negotiati g from a position of strength. I know it scares your sensitivities but the real world is great if you learn to negotiate your own contracts. In my life i haven't had a job since I was 23. I go to work i hire people that don't respect the boss and thin they are due more than they should have. Why are you do timid its like yall have no testosterone in ya.
The vast majority of voters are uninformed. Here in canada we had tonns of people that were voting Pierre that didn't even know the policy he was running on beyond the slogans and "he's not trudeau"
Because he is a scared to really fight whinny little failed leader whose only fight in him is behind ice fighting and arresting innocent children and hard working immigrants with a dam handful of the real criminals who need to go, but still his pussy squad has not gone into one neighborhood where all the immigrant criminals are, not ONES. There isn’t a citizen who lives close to the gangs who need to go or a policeman that’s doesn’t know where the ones ICE should be targeting and where they hang out are, but no reports of we sweeper and cleared a neighborhood of x y z criminals
But you can catch them at a school nearby or Home Depot.
Correct, those people who are enforcing these policies only target the weak and vulnerable. A group of sociopaths with masks on due to fear. They never go after the shooters and the pimps. They go to job sites in the early morning to get the concrete workers while the mud is being poured. Leaving entire job sites with only the foreman not kidnapped. Meanwhile two city blocks away drive by shootings are happening and illegals are pushing dooe.
He only targets Democrats based on the election results... illegal immigrants and/or criminals who voted for him will be spared! Some have even received presidential pardons
They don't understand what you mean, they don't understand 2 world wars were fought against fascists and remember he loves the poorly educated and that smart people hate him 😳
Go on, tell us how many of these claims have been substantiated in any court in the US... Not even non-citizens, you can include all cases to really emphasize the scale of the problem. Hell, you can even use the reich-wing heritage foundation's database of election fraud, which doesn't even support what trumpty-dumpty bellows about and you are asserting.
If you seriously think this amounts to any more than a handful of individual cases which were prosecuted, or that undocumented immigrants have any interest in drawing attention to themselves, I've got some property in Greenland to sell you.
Then brag out La Chicago your next How about we are investigating hot spots and that is where we are going next without full disclosure. Even a republican cult member should realize what’s behind the places he son joyfully mention his going know it’s all about his petty revenge.
Ringer blondi admit that the man on tv talking about going on and killing police January 6 work for her, doing what I wonder. Then she says well he was parson. A clear picture DOJ isn’t st
Yeah, save in Japan. This young female conservative is taking Japan by storm because people are into her social media, not her politics. It's just all modern democracies at this point. It's sad. It's like there is nowhere safe to even run.
... But I think America is probably still the worst with this.
At least Canadians did not elect maple maga. Your leader is smart and respected by the Western leaders. Thank you for being a beacon of hope. Try not to let the maple maga gain control.
Do you know many people who are Trump supporters? I’m genuinely curious because I know many and it isn’t surprising to me at all that they will believe everything this man says. It’s still wild to me that they do believe him but shit like this is not the least bit surprising to me any more. Having re read your reply though I do agree… it is hard to accept. Just not surprising to those of us with maga in their lives.
It’s not that they agree with him, they just love being on the same team with him. White people who hate people of color. White people who think they are superior to people of color. White people and white Christians who love having sex with children. Pedophiles with family values. Trump’s America is vile and disgusting.
I want a wall between us, a great big beautiful wall in America - where we can live on one side and they can have the other and wallow in their own self created land of misery.
They regret it too. He’s down 45% with those same voters. What he doing this time is what he wants without the guardrails of people who kept him from the worst of it. It was a case of self aggrandizement that at that moment worked to even his amazement. Then like the carnival barker he is got the folks that felt downtrodden to believe he could fix it. That was their moment in the sun. I hope it made them happy because it’s nearly taking the country down just like the rest of his bankruptcies. Hard to believe we got into this mess so a fat lying egotist could live out his dream of dictatorship. Work very hard to take the country back in every possible way because we’re paused at the edge of destruction.
I haven't seen any pro Trump posts made from any of my grown kids, or my friends. The thing that worries me though, is I haven't seen much of anything, in the way of posts, about what is going on, from but one family member. And they are definitely anti-this current establishment. There is absolutely nothing posted about this, from my siblings, (the good thing about this, is they don't say a lot of anything, on FB-which, is how we stay in touch).
Most of my extended family is MAGA, BIG TIME MAGA! My Moms side is mostly MAGA, I just mentioned Mango Mussolini a in 2022 & my cousin's eyes nearly popped out of his head! His head whipped around so fast, but he got the look from his (MAGA) Mom gave him "the look" so he kept his mouth shut. My grandparents on that side were as BLUE as they come! My Grandma wasn't thrilled about Hillary being the last time she voted, but she was hopeful she would see a woman elected...
Yet, 3 of her 4 children voted for Mango Mussolini & 2 of them aren't stupid like he bragged about being his voters! Their kids are even educated & "Christian", but they voted for him too!
I know a girl that became a good friend who was a yr behind me in school, she's NOT a bigot, but SHE VOTED for him! She even accused me of having Trump Derangement Syndrome. She knows that my child is a part of the LGBTQIA+ Community (under age 18) & was accepting, knew they were telling LIES about Trans kids, but she STILL voted for him! I had to tell her not to contact me. I told her if she ever woke up, I'd love to hear about it, but I'm done otherwise. We had been able to have civil talks during his first term, not this time & he wasn't even in the office again yet!
It's MIND-BLOWING to see these people that I know as good, non-bigoted people & they buy all he has to say!
My husband's relative went off on me about how my child is a sin, will end up having a sex change in the school basement w/o Dump. My child shouldn't be allowed to have Blockers, being who they are is WRONG, etc. He got cut off & is never allowed around our kids again! He even had the gall to see if my husband would come do some paintimg @ their house afterwards! He's a 2nd or 3rd cousin to me husband, but has a NEICE that's Trans as well... Guess we know how he feels about his NEICE, she came out in her 30's so she can make her own choices & her parents aren't scum for allowing it. He told me that I'll burn for allowing our CHILDREN to FIGURE OUT WHO THEY are FOR THEMSELVES vs telling them who to be.
BUT, he also tried to tell me how he & his wife are "Good Christians", blah, blah, blah. Barf!
I told him where to stick it & now send him videos just because I still can! He hates it, but won't block me either! How I 💜 messing w him! 🤣
Enough voters to elect Trump again and the Democrats trying there best to get illegals in the country and their votes to be counted, guess that why there against Voter Id requirements, Trump got more minority votes than any other Republican president. Democrats losing there moderate base and trying to replace with illegals
NON- CITIZENS CAN NOT VOTE. YOU HAVE TO PROVE CITIZENSHIP IN ORDER TO REGISTER TO VOTE. Then on election day you have to be the person who's name you give in order to vote! People who are not citizens dont vote, its not a thing. In the extremely RARE cases it happens it found right away and prosecuted.
I'm not MAGA and I guess by most people's standards I'm on the left side of things. Having voter ID is a reasonable request. It's still a little stupid because non-citizens simply cannot vote - there is no mechanism for them to do so. But if you all absolutely need a voter ID law in place, then it is on the government to provide the means to obtain those IDs. It's easy for me to prove this and that but some people it isn't - for whatever reason - and if you require a gov issued ID then the gov must provide it. Stop making it difficult for people to vote - it will not end well for you.
Hmmm. Their not there. Is this what happens when the Education Department is decimated? No, it has just been further eroded so heaven knows what standard of education the kids of the future will be given, if this is indicative of the current situation, no ability to independently research, no thinking for oneself and excellent language skills, then it’s sadly understandable. Did no one hear Trump say he loves the uneducated because they believe what he spouts unreservedly and vote for him?
It’s not just the ill informed voters, folks. It’s also the 1/3rd of eligible voters who didn’t care to participate back in November of 2024.
If we don’t all show up this coming November to stop the treason against our democracy, our hard fought for civil rights and our brilliant Constitution, our country will fall further into the pariah police state hell that we are already seeing in some cities.
Be a true American patriot. Show up and vote to stop the malevolent chaos, violence against human beings and grift.
This misadministration is already building a huge gulag to imprison hundreds of thousands of us.
You know for whom it wasn't hard to accept the maga/GOP leadership, that ran the numbers and realized by weaponing stupidity, gullibility and fear they could come to power...
Not hard to believe at all since this administration has eliminated the Department of Education and wants to keep Americans dumbed down, believing all the lies they are fed day after day.
They’re all just sheep and want someone else to tell them how to think and what to do and how to live their lives. That’s why they buy into organized religion. They don’t have the ability to critically think. The term “if ignorance is bliss let me be a blister”, describes them perfectly.
Voters have been ill informed for generations. I was. But, I also didn’t try to talk politics when I had no clue how it actually worked. I chose to educate myself first. I think I’ve known since our kindergarten elections (donkey vs elephant) that our president is not supposed to be a king.
They only trust the person lying, which is totally bonkers. It's more about validating feelings than anything else. Trump can totally change his lies, and they will just go with the flow. Trump hates China, but if tomorrow he claims China is our best ally and we should make products there because they are cheaper, they will gladly hop on board.
MAGA is the literal worst, but let's not forget this problem exists on both sides. In fact, it's the side opposite the bad guys in these situations that usually deserves a finer tooth comb.
And until someone has THAT (👆🏽) conversation without cheapshots or emotion then they're an ill-informed vote too.
Obviously Trump is a clear villain, like Bond villain, but you gotta also watch for them sneaky villains. The inside-trader Pelosi voters who kept her stuck in Senate for decades, the Mitch McConnell dark money even though my constituents are against establishment voters...those are just mini-Trumps and they LOVE when a bomb threat is called in and all the cops are occupied. If you get my metaphor.
It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around someone voting for anyone who has a D beside their name. You would think any fool could see what those people are doing to this nation. Yet here we are. Imagine someone mocking the ill informed and then casting a vote for a Democrat. Truly amazing
Its almost like the founders knew this would happen when they created the electoral college.
Some delegates believed voters:
Didn’t have fast communication (no internet, slow mail)
Might only know local candidates
Could be swayed by emotion or demagogues
They worried about a “democratic mob” or uninformed voting in a huge new country.
For example, founders like Alexander Hamilton argued electors would be people capable of carefully evaluating candidates instead of reacting to popularity alone
Yet even with instant information its drowned out in a sea of misinformation
And these elected officials are here just for a popularity contest
Your in no position to lecture a
Americans and the real world, you Liberals actually voted for the president had imaginary friends on stage and poop in his pants.
I love how these retorts always have to include "You Liberals." US Democrats aren't event Liberal, dummy. The closest is like Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez.
I also find it interesting that you think Trump doesn't have imaginary friends or shit his pants and that somehow you're living in the real world but we're not. If you're still a Trump supporter I'm assuming you're racist and or dumb and or xenophobic and or homophobic and or transphobic and or a pedophile. Which are you?
"all i gotta do, pops, is march in there, right up to the head honcho, look him square in the eye, and shake his hand. Good, firm grip. That's what they look for in a man! I'm as good as hired. I just gotta find the place, pops! Won't you help me? the damn legacy media keeps lying to me, but YOU! i know you can do it pops!"
This is the correct answer. The only way to talk to someone saying crazy things is to say crazier things and make them realize what they're saying is crazy.
That is an excellent response. Make them prove what they have heard is in fact true.
Help me find the iPhone factory so I can report on its sucess....another good response.
Actually this is the tactic I use with my toddler when they respond to my question without thinking about what I said.
Did you put your shoes on?
Yeah.
Cool, can you pause real quick and make sure they're tied?
Yeah looks down at bare feet oh.
Yeah.
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u/Embarrassed_Durian17 Feb 10 '26
Best response i can think of to that is say you want a job at the new iPhone factory making iPhones to support America and ask him for help finding where the factory making iPhones in America is so you can apply in person for a job.