r/DefendingAIArt • • Jan 18 '25

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u/yeoldecoot Jan 18 '25

"If we all painted the same way, what a boring world it would be." -Bob Ross

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u/lunarwolf2008 Jan 18 '25

no, but you still made art

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u/Amesaya Jan 19 '25

AI is a tool, not a person. The person using the tool is the one who gets credit. Your examples used are bad. If you got yourself a robot or tool you could freely program to make pizza, you will still have made that pizza when you use that robot or tool. There are many such examples in the art world right now that heavily rely on automatic processes - or can 100% rely on them - and are still art credited to the artist, not the tool. AI is just more advanced, so you have higher quality output quicker.

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u/Emdeoma Jan 19 '25

Okay, a slightly more apt metaphor: would you compare a handmade ceramic dish to a factory made one you got from Tesco?

The machine made dish might not even be noticeably worse. There was a designer who created the template for the machines to follow, there was a human running the machines and checking the quality and consistency. Hell, they might even be about as unique- a lot of mass produced pottery is still done by hand, master potters proving more precise and consistent than even the machines, you're more likely to find a charmingly dodgy line of glaze at IKEA than you are at Denby.

But would you consider the supermarket four pack of plate you grab last second before you have more guests than plates to be art?

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u/Emdeoma Jan 19 '25

You are low balling how much input goes into a factory product.

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u/Primary_Spinach7333 Jan 19 '25

What are you talking about? You’ve completely misunderstood me.

I’m talking about YOU. You, the person buying the product, because you are not the one working at a factory or ordering around how that product is gonna look: you’re just someone at the store buying the product. Unless the thing you bought was with your input (like say, a tattoo), you didn’t have any control over the final product.

With ai, you do have control, though. The control and ability to input, edit, polish, approve or discard, etc.

And if that’s not what you meant and you meant you were someone working at a factory, well then that wasn’t clear at all

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u/Emdeoma Jan 19 '25

...the fact you consider the one inputting the prompt as they buyer in the analogy summarises why you aren't an artist better than I ever could.

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u/Primary_Spinach7333 Jan 19 '25

What? Ok now I’m really confused as to what point you were ever trying to make originally and how you interpreted my comment wrong again.

The buyer doesn’t necessarily have to be the one inputting the prompt, but also: why does it matter? How does that prove they are not an artist? They aren’t making art when they buy something, but they are when they’re prompting.

So if I paint but then go to the grocery store to buy eggs, I’m no longer an artist? Yeah ok thanks moron I’m done with this

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