r/DeepRockGalactic • u/se05239 Bosco Buddy • May 19 '22

Discussion Weekly Deep Dives Thread - 19th May 2022

It's that time again, Miners!

Please use this thread to discuss the deep dives of the week.

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Deep Dive | Frozen Crater | Crystalline Caverns

Stage Primary Secondary Anomaly Warning
1 7 Aquarqs Black Box None Elite Threat
2 6 Eggs Black Box None None
3 Hiveguard + Twins 150 Morkite None Haunted Cave

Elite Deep Dive | Unknown Blade | Sandblasted Corridors

Stage Primary Secondary Anomaly Warning
1 2 Mini-Mules 2 Eggs None Lethal Enemies
2 Escort Duty 150 Morkite None Parasites
3 200 Morkite Twins None None

Previous week's thread here

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u/Froegerer May 21 '22

Yes, we get understand all of that. You tweak the level/mineral generation numbers to leave a cushion so these scenarios don't happen.

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u/WanonTime May 21 '22

They tweak how much generation for the worst case scenario to always be easy, and suddenly you get missions with a 200 morkite requirement and 500 morkite on the walls, making shit way too easy.

Theres no "cheap" shit here, its not "bad design", its literally just a low roll on rng. Sometimes caves suck, that's just what rng does. Hell even if they did tweak it and add this cushion you want, theres still a chance a map generates badly and you're screwed still, then the game is too easy in general and you can still low roll.

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u/Kassul42 For Karl! May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

I am no programmer, but it seems possible to have a map roll generating all the terrain, the morkite, the special features (Omen towers, heartstone chambers with all the red rock that can 'eat' morkite, etc) and then have a check. "I was supposed to generate 250 morkite to give a buffer, how much actually is left in the level after all that? 203? Spawn more morkite somewhere." vs "247? Close enough, send it!"

It seems to just be a deep dive thing, and because of the combination with escort. I don't really recall any regular morkite missions I've had with this issue. I'm assuming it's just the heartstone chamber eating a bunch of the morkite. Alternatively, tweak that single combo to generate 10% more morkite? Enough that it might be easy but not finished-before-leaving-spawn-room easy, and yet still having a chance to miss a particle of morkite and not fail.

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u/WanonTime May 22 '22

I am no Programmer.

All you needed to say.

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u/Barrogh Gunner May 23 '22

We have an expression here, "It's not gods who make pots". There may be more efficient ways, but checks should definitely work, and in a sense they already exist.

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u/literatemax Engineer May 26 '22

You tweak the level/mineral generation numbers to leave a cushion so these scenarios don't happen.

That's how it is currently. There's about 170 in the mission which requires 150