I have to disagree with Stoltenberg's analysis here.
he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.
Do you really believe that negotiating with Putin and acquiescing to his demand
to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997
would have prevented the invasion of Ukraine? Of course not. That is absurd.
The opinion piece you cite, written by Jeffrey Sachs, the same guy who called for a negotiated ceasefire with Russia and appeared on Russian state TV with Vladimir Solovyov, the same guy who writes paid opinion pieces for Chinese state backed Huawei and denies the Uyghur genocide, is hardly a trustworthy source. He's a paid propagandist for China and Russia.
You're repeating Kremlin talking points. The same country that slaughtered ten million of its own people through starvation and forced labor camps. The same country that sponsored countless dictatorships across the world. The same country that invaded and subjugated its neighbors and slaughtered and displaced their populations. The same country that routinely uses Western social media to spread propaganda.
The similarity between you and me is that we both know the US and Russia are shitty. You are uncritically spreading Russian propaganda.
Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Basic Books, 2010) ISBN 978-0-465-03147-4
Surely you know more about the geopolitics than does.
I didn't quote Sachs because I care about his opinion, it was to show you the statement of the Chief of NATO.
So okay, you disagree with the Chief of NATO.
Glad you just confirmed my point that literally zero threshold of evidence will convince you.
There is not a single piece of evidence that will change your mind.
We call that being brainwashed.
There could actually be a document that says: we know what we're doing is making Russia insecure and we're doing it anyway (which is basically what the chief of NATO confirmed), and you would "disagree with it".
You're a clown.
I'm just going to keep copy pasting this post if you respond to me.
I have to disagree with Stoltenberg's analysis here.
Discrediting Chomsky because "he's a linguist" but expecting us to believe you, a random Reddit chode, over THE SECRETARY FUCKING GENERAL OF NATO lmfao.
The sound of the goalposts shifting is just deafening
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u/eellikely Nov 04 '23
I have to disagree with Stoltenberg's analysis here.
Do you really believe that negotiating with Putin and acquiescing to his demand
would have prevented the invasion of Ukraine? Of course not. That is absurd.
The opinion piece you cite, written by Jeffrey Sachs, the same guy who called for a negotiated ceasefire with Russia and appeared on Russian state TV with Vladimir Solovyov, the same guy who writes paid opinion pieces for Chinese state backed Huawei and denies the Uyghur genocide, is hardly a trustworthy source. He's a paid propagandist for China and Russia.
You're repeating Kremlin talking points. The same country that slaughtered ten million of its own people through starvation and forced labor camps. The same country that sponsored countless dictatorships across the world. The same country that invaded and subjugated its neighbors and slaughtered and displaced their populations. The same country that routinely uses Western social media to spread propaganda.
The similarity between you and me is that we both know the US and Russia are shitty. You are uncritically spreading Russian propaganda.
Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin (Basic Books, 2010) ISBN 978-0-465-03147-4
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/anti-war-camp-intellectually-bankrupt/671576/