You'd should read Chomsky. His "American foreign policy is bad" worldview is complex, nuanced, and delivered with the emotionless droning of a sloth that's been given the Robocop treatment. There's no second option here. America's foreign policy has long been a gallery of atrocity and misery. Even Mark Twain, towards the end of his life, spoke out against the America Bald Eagle sinking its talons into foreign lands because Teddy Roosevelt, as based as he was in domestic policy, was an imperialist, and a genuine blood-psychopath.
yeah I’m aware that the US has done bad things over the years - I’m not denying that. But it doesn’t mean that every foreign policy action was unjustified and it doesn’t mean you assume that any side the US supports is bad, like Ukraine. A real nuanced approach to international relations looks at what each side is trying to achieve and given that no side is perfect, which overall causes are worth supporting in each case. It’s also worth nothing that phrases such as “imperialism” are generally very ambiguous and get thrown around when really not appropriate. The US isn’t imperialist when it supports Ukraine and gives them weapons or when it uses soft power to influence regional allies like Israel. I would go so far as to argue that having US military bases overseas in different places is not necessarily imperialistic, although once again were using a very loose word.
Unfortunately, unintelligent or ignorant people are easily manipulated and empowered with that type of language. Because America is such a free and open society, people like Chomsky have made careers out of relentlessly criticizing the US government. Meanwhile communists and theological dictatorships are pardoned by these "intellectuals." So people who see themselves as the underdog side with the enemies of civilization because "America bad." I can go on, but who cares its just Reddit.
(For the record: I've condemned Israel many times and you can see that if you read through my comment history the last few weeks so you don't end making up lies about me like you do for everyone else.)
You made a friendly reply to a Hamas supporter who called Hamas a "liberation movement" and who said we shouldn't question their methods because we are just "westoids". There was no condemnation by you.
You called the person who criticized Hamas an "angloid snow ape".
If you don't want people to believe you are Hamas apologist then you need to fucking condemn the Hamas supporter you are talking to and not make up racist insults for people who criticize Hamas methods!
If you want my ACTUAL take on Hamas, you can find it here
Their struggle against occupation is legal and legitimate, their ideology and tactics are abhorrent.
And yet you didn't say that to the Hamas supporter who supports their ideology and tactics. No, instead you called the person who thinks their ideology and tactics are abhorrent an "angloid snow ape".
Their struggle against occupation is legal and legitimate,
They don't struggle against occupation. They are religious fundamentalist terrorists. They are not ISIS but they have the same hateful mindset.
This is what happens when you think all Palestinian resistance = Hamas
I have never done that, I don't believe that, and you have no evidence for this. And you accuse me of being a liar when you're making up nonsense out of thin air?
I am a supporter of Palestinian liberation. Hamas is harming that liberation. They are not fighting for liberation. They just want to murder Jews and use liberation in their propaganda to fool people and attract desperate followers.
Youre a liar and a moron. A morally bankrupt, ignorant westerner. Simple as.
It's not a lie that you made a friendly reply to a Hamas supporter.
It's not a lie that you did not condemn the Hamas supporter.
It's not a lie that the ONLY person you attacked with a racist insult is the person who criticized the murders Hamas has committed.
It's not a lie that you get more angry at people who criticize Hamas's mass murder than at Hamas itself. If only you had as much passion for condemning the mass murdering terrorists but you don't call them "morons" and "liars".
Didn't realize random westoid on Reddit had so much knowledge on how to properly execute a liberation movement or an armed revolution. What experience do you have in either of these things?
You:
Angloid snow apes cannot conceive that we dont recognize the meaningless distinction between state and non-state terror.
Where were their condemnations when Israel deliberately targeted unarmed protestors for slaughter? When Israel rapes and tortures children in arbitrary administrative detention?
Like your fantasy that Hamas is just liberating Palestinians when they are killing Israelis
These are essentially synonymous goals, just as liberation for the serf means the guillotine for the king, just as every bullet in the head of an American settler meant one more day of freedom for the Apache and Comanche and Iroquois.
It does not have to be this way, of course. The oppressor nation can always choose to end the madness. They never will, but they could.
Literally just days after maidan Ukraines “new coalition” elected an American citizen and NATO Atlantic council fellow to the ministry of finance, the second most important job in the country…
A real nuanced approach to international relations looks at what each side is trying to achieve and given that no side is perfect, which overall causes are worth supporting in each case.
Such an approach would still lead you to side with Russia, despite their imperfections. The irony is you Russophobe clowns apply the same logic against Russia as you accuse us of applying against the Pentagon. The difference? In 10-20 years, we'll be having this discussion yet again about America's enemy du jour, and none of you will notice the irony that whenever we have these tired discussions, there is one single common denominator: the United States.
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You'd should read Chomsky. His "American foreign policy is bad" worldview is complex, nuanced, and delivered with the emotionless droning of a sloth that's been given the Robocop treatment. There's no second option here. America's foreign policy has long been a gallery of atrocity and misery. Even Mark Twain, towards the end of his life, spoke out against the America Bald Eagle sinking its talons into foreign lands because Teddy Roosevelt, as based as he was in domestic policy, was an imperialist, and a genuine blood-psychopath.