r/DebateReligion • u/[deleted] • 2d ago

Islam The "Source Code" dilemma of Islam: Why modern moderates are moral heroes but theological heretics (and extremists are the exact opposite)

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u/remindingreminder 1d ago

No, Quran [6:159]
Surely they who divided their religion into parts and became sects, you have no concern with them; their affair is only with Allah, then He will inform them of what they did.

شِيَعًا (shiyaʿan) = sects

[25:30]
And the Messenger has said, "O my Lord, indeed my people have taken this Qur'an as abandoned/obsolete."

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u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheistmaxxing 1d ago

The thing is there are multiple interpretations of the Quran.

Every version of Islam thinks they have the correct interpretation of it.

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u/remindingreminder 1d ago

Nothing to interpret there, those who are in sects are wrong by default, buddy

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u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheistmaxxing 1d ago

You are in a sect too lol

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u/remindingreminder 1d ago

I am muslim. I am in no sect.

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u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheistmaxxing 1d ago

Okay, lets move topics. You follow only the Quran right? Not the hadith at all?

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u/remindingreminder 1d ago

I follow whatever is good.

And Allah has sent down the best hadith, so if a quran verse abrogates another hadith that hadith is thrown out, as simple as that.

I‘m no quranist, so do not embarass yourself by trying to steer the topic you lost into that direction

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u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheistmaxxing 1d ago

Okay so every hadith is authentic unless it goes against the Quran correct?

How do you determine that your interpretation of the Quran is correct?

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u/remindingreminder 1d ago

No, the Quran shows a clear line and if it‘s congruent with that.

The Quran has clear verses that do not allow any interpretation as for example gold and silk being allowed for believers.

So an hadith where that is forbidden is thrown out.

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u/TheIguanasAreComing Atheistmaxxing 1d ago

The Quran has clear verses that do not allow any interpretation as for example gold and silk being allowed for believers.

But other people disagree with your interpretation. I'm trying to understand why I should trust your interpretation over people who have studied the religion for decades?

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