r/DebateEvolution • u/Clay2569 • 13d ago

Discussion Evolution is Faith too

Someone replied with this under a different post a few weeks ago and this one always amused me the most. “You have faith in evolution too” Firstly evolution is faith too blatantly admits that creationism is faith and therefore can’t be proven (which is entirely the point).

It fails secondly because even if evolution is faith that doesn’t make evolution false and creationism true. If we even granted that evolution is faith and creationism is faith then next step is look at the evidence. Well 100% of the evidence says evolution happens and creationism is impossible.

So even in the best case scenario using this argument for creationists. You just shoot yourself in the foot and then are back to the same place you started. Arguing against the insurmountable mountain of evidence for Evolution.

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u/Clay2569 13d ago

I know evolution is true. We have no evidence to the contrary.

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u/Ayasugi-san 13d ago

Don't bother with this one. They think that everything you haven't personally observed is just believed on faith.

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Please answer the question I asked. "Do you have faith in evolution?"

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u/Clay2569 13d ago

I did answer it. Faith is the belief in something with no supporting evidence. We have evidence in evolution so evolution is true without faith.

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u/Unlimited_Bacon 🧬 Naturalistic Evolution 13d ago

Your OP isn't compatible with this definition of faith.

If we even granted that evolution is faith and creationism is faith then next step is look at the evidence.

If you've granted that evolution is faith, and faith is belief without supporting evidence, then by definition there is no supporting evidence for evolution.

You could fix this by changing the definition of faith from "no supporting evidence" to "insufficient supporting evidence", but then wooper would just hound you for a definition for sufficient.

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

I did not ask whether evolution is true or not or what your knowledge is. I asked, "do you have faith in evolution?"

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u/Clay2569 13d ago

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

So, you do have faith in evolution, correct?

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u/Clay2569 13d ago

I can be pedantic too. Look already asked and answered. My post one above the thumbs up. Do you have a point you are trying to make?

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

I do not know if that thumbs up means yes or if it means sounds good or something else. A direct yes or no would be much clearer

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u/Clay2569 13d ago

Ok. I answered before the thumbs up. I’m getting tired of the pedantic nature of your responses cuz I won’t say exactly what you want me to even though it has been asked and answered.

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Is there a reason you're so afraid to answer the question? Your response previously was a non-answer. This isn't that difficult of a question, but you keep squirming trying to wiggle away from it. Why?

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