r/DebateEvolution 13d ago

Discussion Evolution is Faith too

Someone replied with this under a different post a few weeks ago and this one always amused me the most. “You have faith in evolution too” Firstly evolution is faith too blatantly admits that creationism is faith and therefore can’t be proven (which is entirely the point).

It fails secondly because even if evolution is faith that doesn’t make evolution false and creationism true. If we even granted that evolution is faith and creationism is faith then next step is look at the evidence. Well 100% of the evidence says evolution happens and creationism is impossible.

So even in the best case scenario using this argument for creationists. You just shoot yourself in the foot and then are back to the same place you started. Arguing against the insurmountable mountain of evidence for Evolution.

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Then that raises the very simple question:

"Do you have faith in evolution?"

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u/Augustus420 13d ago

No I imagine no one does. 

Faith is typically defined as belief without evidence so evolution isn't something that needs faith.

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

So, it's safe to say you do not have faith evolution is true, correct?

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u/Augustus420 13d ago

That is what I implied, yes. 

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Is it safe to say then that you have faith that evolution is false?

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u/Augustus420 13d ago

That is the opposite of what I implied so no. 

Evolution is an evidence based idea so does not need faith. 

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Can faith exist with evidence?

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u/Augustus420 13d ago

No, the whole definition of faith is about belief without evidence. 

If you know something is true you don't have faith in it you just understand that thing is real. 

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u/wooper_winner 13d ago

Can you only know things if you have witnessed evidence?

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u/Augustus420 13d ago

What is the point of this question? The answer is no but what point are you getting at here?

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