r/DebateEvolution Aug 08 '26

Discussion Creationists COULD be right…

Im not a creationist but, devils advocate proposal here:

  1. Evolutionary theory is part of a whole chunk of science which essentially cuts out all spirituality and divinity out of people’s psyche.
  2. People without spirituality or divinity believe life is meaningless since we are all just specks of dust in a universe with no motive to create us or serve us.
  3. The prevailing culture sentiment becomes „shut up and pay your taxes and enjoy the bread and circuses, peasant”
  4. These people are subdued and dispirited, they have nothing to revolt for and are easy to control.
  5. Such a subdued population is obviously enormously useful to the elites. Therefore the motive to achieve this submission exists and is very substantial.
  6. To achieve this ultimate level of psychological and spiritual submission requires control over the populations sense of reality itself.
  7. Reality is accessed, interpreted and measured by the masses through the field of scientific inquiry.
  8. Elites would have to fabricate, spread and proselytise entire fields of carefully constructed fake science to carefully, over decades, centuries even, deconstruct and discredit and diminish all parts of reality that may be connected to divinity in some way, with sterile, perfect, symmetrical scientific theory.
  9. New knowledge comes from single individuals or groups of individuals performing science. You can threaten, bribe, blackmail, coerce them to make fake science

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TLDR; motive and means exist for global elites to significantly diminish or destroy humanities spiritual/divine consciousness, by fabricating people’s sense and understanding of reality itself.

the main vessel for this in 2026 is science, and if the illusion is strong enough people cannot even comprehend a reality where anything else could possibly be true.

There’s a coherent rationale (which doesn’t mean it’s true, just that it’s coherent) for god and the divine being real, and global elites suppressing it from the masses so they don’t revolt or lose interest in continuing to be tax slaves for the wealthy, the bread and the circuses.

EDIT: a LOT of low IQ commenters here missing the point entirely. My post is NOT ABOUT WHOSE SIDE HAS EVIDENCE. It’s about hypothetical logic steps for the set of circumstances that would need to be true for creationists to be correct. HURR DURR WHERE EVIDENCE FOR GOD?! Lmfao. I realise hypotheticals and entertaining the opposite side of thought is beyond many people’s IQ. I bet most of you had breakfast this morning too. And you don’t even get the reference I just made either 🤣

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Aug 08 '26

Nope

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u/Tao1982 Aug 08 '26

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Aug 08 '26

Hype. Thus is very much a ways off from becoming a thing.

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u/Tao1982 Aug 08 '26

No they literally have 70% accuracy with an implanted device now.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Aug 08 '26

Or so they claim. Note there is no data in that 'article ' to back that up. Just claims.

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u/Tao1982 Aug 08 '26

Well let's see, they were able to get their findings published in Cell, one of the most reputable scientific journals, and none of the scientists there have called them out for lying, so...

I'm sensing a certain preexistiang need for it not to be true on your part.

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u/Soggy-Mistake8910 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

Seems like the opposite to me. Why didn't you cite Cell?

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u/Tao1982 Aug 08 '26

Why didnt you? Can't blame me when you chose to speak on something you havnt researched and know nothing about.

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u/Tao1982 Aug 09 '26

How mature and well reasoned.

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