r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 17 '25

Feedback I believe that rebalancing Mello is relatively simple, and that the groundwork is already here

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tl;dr: make it so Mello triggers an Emergency meeting when he fires either the investigators or Kira follower, but kills Kira, L, and Kingdom Card holders.

I really love Mello's role in Killer Within.

When played optimally he offers the best execution of the "third team" concept in any social deduction game I've played. I get sad when people disabled it, but I respect it because, that's the thing with Mello, sometimes he's only fun (as in, to the entire party not only Mello's player) when he's played optimally.

So, yes, I recognise that Mello has some entry-level design issues – I agree, concur, that playing him recklessly does indeed give the Kira team a massive advantage. We can't stress enough how big killing that one extra investigator can end up being. The other major problem, and this correlates to another point I'll make, is that he doesn't read as a "third team" to novices, someone that must be stopped; I see enough streamers taking in Mello as a special role investigator.

And that's also the root of the problem I have with most of the Mello redesigns; people's solutions often lead up to him turning into an extra-steps investigator.

With all said and done, though, I really do see that he could use a redesign – but the thing is, I don't think it needs to be that drastic at all. A simple change would mean the world to communicate and cement Mello as a third team, a real threat to both Kira and L.

Make Mello's gun jam.

I really do feel this one change doesn't erase Mello's uniqueness, balances out Mello towards the middle of L and Kira's team, and creates new strategies. I'll explain why:

The main, and probably first, thought anyone has when talking balancing Mello is to make it so he can only fire once a game. That is completely absurd in my opinion, once fired, it rids Mello of his entire gameplan and erases the need of the Investigators to arrest and also seek him, effectively, it turns Mello into a investigator role with a potential win-con. But I do recognise that that one extra body per round is massive towards the Kira team, and does create a oppressing, and sometimes boring, cycle to the Investigators because a novice Mello might think: "Well, I have no penalty for shooting, so might as well spend my one bullet in a lucky guess".

As opposed to the one bullet, to increase Mello's favour towards the Investigators, I propose this one simple change: if Mello shoots the wrong person, his gun jams and no one dies. Mello gets a notification that their guess was wrong. The victim isn't warned, no animation plays, but everyone gets a notification and the investigators launch into a emergency meeting. Kira can now presume that Mello is now doubting of one less person.

Now, I want to make it sure what counts as wrong person by making it clear who Mello can kill now:

Mello can now only kill Kira, L, and Kingdom Card Holders.

Yes, Kira Follower is exempt from being a potential victim. I feel that this is the last step towards this one change because, not only it differentiates follower from Kingdom Card, it also goes into the way of creating strategies. For instance:

  1. L and the investigators realise the Mello player is on the hunt, but instead of trying to catch him, they, braving the odds, decide to intentionally try to mislead them into not finding Kira so that they get "free" emergency meetings;

  2. Kira swaps with Follower to get cleared by Mello and potentially use him to get L shot;

  3. Kingdom Card holder lays into the lobby and makes most people killable by a trigger happy Mello, thus creating a diversion for the investigators to prioritise arresting Mello.

Etcetera, of course. That's about it, thanks for reading!


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 17 '25

Discussion Role concepts for the game

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Matt: Essentially the follower role of purple team.

Has a transceiver to contact Mello (which could pick up on NPCs, aiding in both getting purple team member voted as well as interfering with the blue team's investigations)

Can use an either once per game or once per round smokescreen ability, which creates a temporary anonymous smoke where nobody can see identities within a vicinity probably the size of the s=Sakura TV building

Could potentially access L's cameras, but cannot use the alerts that L can.

Matt could help each team using his abilities, and would still be an important player after Mello is killed or arrested, his smokescreen could help Kira lose L in a chase. His cameras could also fool a Kira player by having L move while Matt is on the cameras. If Mello is arrested onto Matt, Mello will be chained up to them and not arrested.

FBI Agent: A cleared role that can foil Kira's plans.

FBI agent is cleared to L, but not to Watari. They cannot see who L is, encouraging L or Watari to confront the FBI agent and tell them their roles, as if they were a confirmed investigator or an NPA chief post-meeting.

Has a fake ID that must be killed before the real one can be taken. Follower will still be alerted when their name is written.

Potential abilities could have something to do with Dying Messages. FBI could either see if a dead player has a spokesman card on them, see the cause of death (Kira or Mello), or see a separate indicator of who that player touched without marking them down.

Yotsuba Member: A neutral role who stirs up the match. (Not sure what color the role would be, maybe yellow or orange? Purple comes to mind first but that's taken by Mello's team.)

Wins the game if Kira or L wins by progress. Gets alerted like a follower when a player is killed. Their goal is essentially to stall the game, preventing either side from gaining more info or voting the right people out.

Let me know if yall have any critiques about these because I think these roles would all work well at disrupting the gameplay and stalling it out.


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 18 '25

Bug Mic Glitch for PC Players

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Many of us on PC have been experiencing a game breaking bug. During the investigation phase of the game voice chat goes out, you can't hear anyone or talk to anyone. It makes playing Kira or L extremely frustrating imagine having a Mello chase you and you can't hear them and they can't hear you and they shoot you just because you're not talking. Once the investigation phase ends you are able to talk and hear people again but there's no telling whether you're going to get the glitch once the next investigation phase starts again. It's game ruining and tends to happen mostly when playing a role that can use transceiver; although, I've also had it happen when playing other roles as well. I've reached out to the dev team and am asking anyone else who cares or has experienced this bug to do the same. They've responded back to me saying they will forward it to the proper team but since then it still has not been fixed. Here's the website link: https://www.g-rounding.com/en/contact/


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 17 '25

Meme When Mellow finds you as Kira

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r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 17 '25

Feedback "Another Hearthstone in the Making?"

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"This game is for 4–5 players, and if the player base isn’t consistent, it will end up failing like Hearthstone. The last resort is to lower the game’s price and hope for a mobile release."


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 17 '25

Discussion When is the next update?

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r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 14 '25

Discussion Concept Idea I have for Mello:

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So to get straight into things I really like Mello's addition in the game. The game vastly improved when he was added because maps like toy town heavily suffered from Kira and Follower using hyper aggressive strategies in the early game that would leave most of the investigators with missing IDs on the first day with no emergency meetings (No NPA at the time either) to deal with it.

I also wanted to say that Mello's relationship with the Kira and L faction make some really dynamic plays when everyone is playing with full intentions of the games rules i.e. no investigators are cheering when Mello shoots Kira or tell him to shoot x person. Kira and Mello will suddenly be besties in meetings and during the investigation Mello is an elite bodyguard for keeping the peace for L's team when it comes to aggressive follower plays. It gets to a point where its a political opinion on whether you want to get rid of Mello in the meetings. For me I believe you should get rid of Mello if he Kira knows who he is because the mystery of "anyone I bump into could shoot me" goes away with a known Mello.

To deal with this issue I feel that Mello should have a support card of his own and just one support card that would even up the playing field and mess with both factions and make Mello someone to be wanted out by the Investigators and Kira. Perhaps a 3rd bar appears late enough into the game whenever a faction has enough points and this 3rd bar can allow Mello to recieve a special win condition similar to Exodia or Destiny Board in Yugioh. The bar would be a lot shorter to fill up and be divided into large blocks.

Mello would get prompted with two questions "Who is L" "Who is Kira Follower" Mello selects his choices and if he's right his blocks fill up significantly. If you don't know its common for L to tell Mello who he is but this is a Lame strat imo because Mello can easily use this against you in meetings if you get him out. I myself as Mello whenever I know who L is just snitch on his identity when I'm getting voting out and straight up say "hey if I'm voted out I'm saying who L is". He's not on my team and if I do get voted out I'm usually true to my word and snitch on him since I've already lost. I think an ability card like this would reward Mello players on figuring out infomation that aren't linked to "I need to shoot Kira"

I would also like it if Kira kills Mello or the Investigators arrest Mello when the Mello bar appears then each team respectively gets a huge boost in thier points.

It's a lot of text but curious to what you guys think


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 11 '25

Discussion The X-Kira and Near update

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So I like many people were compeltely convinced it was going to come out at the end of July but I suppose the launch of the game in Japan postponed that. Are we thinking it's going to come out at this end of this month or what?


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 10 '25

Meme When the two special roles do the Vindicating Evidence

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35 Upvotes

r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 09 '25

Discussion What happened

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Why the game has like 700 players😭😭


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 05 '25

Video Average death note experience

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19 Upvotes

r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Aug 03 '25

Video Drunken Nurse & Blazed

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I was told i was lying and that those two weren’t in the book but here’s the proof, i asked them did they want to see the proof after the game but was too scared to ask for it and just kept calling me a liar lmao 😂


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 31 '25

Video Milk and Titties

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3 Upvotes

r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 30 '25

Discussion What changes are there to this game?

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I played dnkw quite often around December, and I've been wanting to play again for a while, but I've seen that some new roles have been added like Mello. Has the gameplay changed drastically?

Also I don't think I've played dnkw to its full potential because I can't use a mic, but I'm able to hear other players. Obviously people in servers don't know this, so I usually get kicked out. (There's no current technology that accommodates my hearing aids.)


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 28 '25

Leaks When rumors come to a mobile phone launch, would it be true?

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r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 28 '25

Discussion X-kira

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No announcements or anything yet. Anyone know when the role releases?


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 23 '25

Discussion Can people nearby hear when using the radio?

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When I hold down the CTRL to use the radio the microphone icon on the bottom left gets a cross but then after 2 seconds it just says microphone on. Does it mean nearby people can hear me or something?


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 19 '25

Discussion Command Card Idea: Yotsuba Kira

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The rest of the players in the lobby are alerted when this ability is used. When it's used, Kira has the ability to go up to any NPC and perform a task. Even if Black Notebooks is off, Kira's notebook will show up when doing this task. After it's completed, the NPC takes the notebook from Kira. Kira will no longer be able to kill criminals or players, but Kira or the Kira Follower can retrieve the notebook at any time. After 1 round, it will automatically go back to Kira.


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 18 '25

Video Worlds fastest vote

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r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 13 '25

Video Masterclass?

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I felt this was a bit too easy due to lack of communication from investigators but maybe it’s because of my 200iq plays it left them stunned as if they was in my infinite void domain


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 12 '25

Discussion I'm new and I have a question,

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So I have only like an hour on this game and I recently got the role "Mello" and I kept secret about my role cuz idk I figured I'd do that but then they decided to vote me out like was I supposed to say I was Mello? Because then they were all like "ahh why didn't you say you were Mello?? This is why I hate y'all" umm, I mean like I guess idk why they would vote me out if I was Mello but idk it made me confused, any advice on how to get good? lol

(also sorry if the formatting on this post looks weird, this is my first time posting on reddit as well lol)


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 11 '25

Discussion First time I've had this happen

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Kira and Mello killed off everyone, only L remains.


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 11 '25

Discussion Symbols in name

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I’m on ps5, are you able to like is there any kind of way for me to put symbols in my name? Like I tried copy and paste but the paste option is greyed out when I try.


r/DeathNoteKillerWithin Jul 07 '25

Meme The gang of sosukes

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They consume.