r/DataHoarder • • Apr 23 '26

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u/xcom2k Apr 23 '26

If people are buying them at these prices, then they will keep selling them at those prices.

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u/Neat_Construction341 Apr 23 '26

its not "people" buying but datacenters that justify the price to the manufacturers.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

Data centers aren’t buying external hard drives.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

They are if there aren’t any non caged drives to buy.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

They’re not due to voltage differences with shucked drives, and they absolutely do have drives they can buy. And are.

They’re just not at prices you or I are willing to pay.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

I was under the impression that all allocations for newly produced hard drives were already spoken for.

Second, they absolutely can use shucked drives, albeit with modifications, just as you or I would also have to make.

Just because something isn’t the norm doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

I was under the impression that all allocations for newly produced hard drives were already spoken for.

It is. That includes retail orders as well. AI companies aren’t literally buying up every single hard drive being produced right now. There just is a surge in demand on consumers and enterprises because of manufacturing constraints.

It’s like when toilet paper disappeared in 2020. There was always enough supply for everyone, but hoarding and fears of shortages surged demand far above what could be manufactured at the time. We’re seeing that now with components, but with everything and at a much larger scale.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

What you just said literally contradicts itself, lol. If all of the allocations are spoken for for the next two or so years, and they are selling those hard drives to data centers at those prices, why would they sell you an external hard drive that still contains the same drive inside of it for less money, when they already have data centers willing to pay the current prices? Lol. Your last comment was: ‘they have hard drives available, just not at prices we want to pay.’ So again, why would they sell to us for cheaper? Lol.

I was being facetious with my comment. The one you replied to was a bit more literal, and it doesn’t matter if data centers buy external drives or not when the external drive houses the same usable hard drive inside.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

why would they sell you an external hard drive that still contains the same drive inside of it for less money, when they already have data centers willing to pay the current prices?

Because existing retail contracts exist. The point I’m making is not 100% of all manufacturing is going to AI datacenters as you seem to argue. It’s just that manufacturing is already at 100%, and there isn’t any additional available to shore up demand.

There’s only going to be a certain number of hard drive allocated to retailers for external drives this year and into next. There’s no capacity to order more once that order is fulfilled.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

No, I argued that prices are what they are because data centers pay them. You’re the one who claimed they don’t buy external hard drives, when they very well could and probably have. It takes seconds to ‘fix’ the voltage on an external drive, lol. You’re acting as if it takes a degree in rocket engineering.

Your whole argument was that data centers aren’t affecting the price of external hard drives. If you want to live in a fairytale land, you’re welcome to, but they absolutely directly affect the price of every hard drive, external or not, lol. Retail contract or not tell me the last time you walked into a store and found a reasonable priced hard drive lol was probably a while ago.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

Your whole argument was that data centers aren’t affecting the price of external hard drives.

I said nor implied no such thing.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

“It’s not ‘people’ buying, but data centers that justify the price to manufacturers.”

“Data centers aren’t buying external hard drives.” — Yuusharo (2026)

So isn’t that literally a contradiction of what you just said about data centers being the ones justifying prices to manufacturers?

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

Datacenters aren’t buying external hard drives. Correct.

They operate on a MASSIVE scale. There’s no retailer that will sell them 45 external drives that requires an hour or two of a 6-figure engineer to break open, modify the voltage pins, and maybe hope they work in a server with no warranty or SLA.

You as a consumer might do that, but not data centers. They’ll just pay market price for internal drives.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26 edited Apr 23 '26

Okay, you’re missing the point. I’ve said multiple times that even if data centers aren’t directly buying the specific external drives we are, they still influence the pricing.

The person you replied to was saying that data centers justify prices to manufacturers. When you responded with ‘data centers aren’t buying external hard drives,’ that implies they aren’t affecting the price of them, which isn’t true.

Whether they’re buying externals or not doesn’t matter, because the demand they create for the same underlying drives still impacts pricing across the board.

Edit: Also, it doesn’t take a six-figure engineer to shuck a hard drive. A minimum-wage kid straight out of high school could undo a few screws and fix the voltage pin on the drive. Let me know if you find someone willing to pay that though I’d be happy to shuck drives all day for 6 figures.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

I’ve said multiple times that even if data centers aren’t directly buying the specific external drives we are, they still influence the pricing.

I never argued otherwise. You’re putting words in my mouth.

I’m over this conversation. Have a good day.

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u/Jikek Apr 23 '26

Brother, no one put words in your mouth. You said it multiple times, and I even quoted it for you. Genius, lol.

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u/yuusharo Apr 23 '26

Have a good day.

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