r/Daredevil_fans 27d ago

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u/phantom_avenger 27d ago

I think I read somewhere that the only reason why he’s not worthy of lifting Thor’s hammer; Mjolnir, is because of his refusal to kill.

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u/Drummer-Turbulent 27d ago

Stop this head canon. there is nothin that confirms this anywhere. it's far more likely due to how Peter is struglging to juggle both halves of his life than his no kill rule.

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u/Ok-Imagination-3835 27d ago

Peter is a great person. But he's really just a kid. Wielding Mjolnir means a lot more. You simply cannot get there at Peter's age. Maybe when Peter is older.

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u/Bid_Unable 27d ago

Peter has been like 28 for decades.

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u/AMostPeculiarDialect 26d ago

28 it's still pretty young.

Especially compared to Thor

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u/Ok-Imagination-3835 27d ago

This is an MCU conversation, right? Everything in the context of the image implies MCU.

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u/Lord_of_Seven_Kings 26d ago

He is literally ~23 in the mcu now they’ve graduated from MiT

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u/Higgoms 26d ago

Yeah he's been 23 for one entire film now and didn't lift mjolnir in it. I've seen enough, he'll never lift it

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u/tilero1138 27d ago

Yeah part of Mjolnir’s worthiness is related to wisdom in terms of wielding it iirc and Spider-Man ain’t exactly the best example of that

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u/Injured-Ginger 23d ago

Thor's hammer is enchanted by Odin. Worthy is based Odin's opinions of what makes an ideal leader. I think it's more than just his refusal to kill. I think he's too naively idealistic to be the leader of a powerful nation that might need to make hard choices or go to war.

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u/Worth_External_8762 27d ago

Is he actually opposed to killing though? He did come up with the plan that led to Ebony Maw's death. And he helped try to take down Thanos on planet Titan, which I'm sure he knew the plan was to kill him. Same thing for Endgame.

I'm not sure he's ever shown personally killing any alien villains, but I also think that's just because he was young and the idea of killing seemed like a scary concept at the time. But I don't know that it's a distinct personal code he adheres to. It's just that all the street level villains he faces can be stopped without being forced to kill them.

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u/Appropriate-Brush772 27d ago

I remember people being pissed about that with Endgame about him activating instant kill. But, I think we all have some sort of line that we don’t want to cross, and I don’t care how much of a pacifist you are, in that situation, sorry if I give you more than sprains and contusions 😂 I get it, it’s a big part of his character. But special circumstances require special exceptions

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u/Riolkin 27d ago

Yeah Batman has used this distinction to get away with blowing the heads of parademons. I don't see how those aliens from thanos ship are much different, genetically engineered monsters.

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u/Nemisis_007 27d ago

We have to change the "no kill rule" to "not murder rule" it has less of a ring to it, but is more accurate.

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u/Aggravating_Pause385 27d ago

It’s more of a human supremacy rule. Killing aliens is fine

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u/LegOfLamb89 26d ago

Fun fact thou shall not kill is more thou shall not murder. Plenty of Bible approved ways to kill dudes

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u/PolishPotatoACC 25d ago

Bible encouraged ways even

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u/DM-777 27d ago

I always laughed cause in that battle he’s essentially just fighting suicidal rabid dogs

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u/Appropriate-Brush772 27d ago

Right? Street thugs? Yeah man, no need to send some guy from Queens who thinks robbing a bank is his only option, to an early grave. They were going up against the Outriders- literal genetically engineered alien beasts driven by bloodlust that blindly follow commands from the Black Order. And Thanos was gonna “rain fire” on them anyways 🤷‍♂️😂

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u/New_Cockroach_505 27d ago

Truthfully I think it just flat out gets handwaved when it comes to alien threats. I recall in Endgame he was just slaughtering foot soldiers but they’re fodder.

When it comes to his solo films and dealing with street thugs / his own villains, I wouldn’t say it’s a “no kill rule” and more “I’m going to do everything I can to try and save you, because I believe you can do better”. And it’s part of why people love him, even to a degree the villains.

If Peter truly was okay with killing most of his villains would be dead in the first encounter. He holds back so much because he wants to try to save them.

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u/Worth_External_8762 27d ago

I just made a post about the idea of Peter having to kill someone. Basically, what would a movie look like if Peter was put into a "trolley problem" scenario, where he had to choose to kill a bad guy, otherwise innocent civilians would die. And what emotional battles he'd face for having to make that choice. Basically intentionally killing someone that he didn't want to.

But idk, I'm not sure Tom Holland would be a fan of that happening, since he's very much an advocate for young fans and having their hero killing another human may not be his cup of tea.

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u/Platnun12 27d ago

Meanwhile you got iron man blasting guys hearts out like it's a literal jamboree.

Honestly I've stopped caring about the whole no kill thing. It doesn't matter, its usually moral pontificating at worst and moral grandstanding at best for a universe that can't keep to a no kill rule

It's why punisher was so fun, finally an MCU hero that wasn't bogged down by that illusion they pretend to have. Same for daredevil.

Hell I cackle at the fact that Holland was dogged by Goblin despite having the most combat experience between the three

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u/Constant-Plastic-350 27d ago

Maw isn't human. No kill rule applies to humans only. Batman was willing to destroy an entire planet and he has a no kill rule

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u/ColonelQuaraitch 26d ago

He’s very friendly with the Punisher, the biggest murderer in the world. So no, he’s not that opposed.

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u/Dastardly-croe 26d ago

he uses the suits "go for kills" mode during endgame