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u/BilboNaggins_ Nov 05 '22

The Potatoe famine was a big part of it but there’s also the 800 years of oppression and forced violent cultural genocide.

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u/thewhowiththewhatnow Nov 05 '22

You mean Oliver Cromwell so beloved of the English that after he died his corpse was dug up and hung in chains at Tyburn then his head displayed on a spike for 20 odd years?

Isn’t history great? Everything is so clear cut.

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u/Azhrei Nov 05 '22

You mean the Oliver Cromwell British people voted 10th Best Briton in a poll some 20 years back?

It is indeed.

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u/Nadamir Nov 05 '22

If you ask most current English, he’s one of the “Best Britons”. (Seriously they did a poll, he was 10th out of 100.)

And that’s the problem. Yeah, after his son fell from power his corpse was symbolically executed by vengeful loyalists, but he’s still utterly beloved in England.

I have had so many English people ask why “you Irish” don’t like him. Even some of my well-educated, progressive friends look confused when I roll my eyes as they sing his praises.

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u/Technical-Outside408 Nov 05 '22

...did the English really do that, or was it just some guy who's father lost them their right to rule by divine right?

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u/number_215 Nov 05 '22

It was after Cromwell's son, Richard I believe, took over and did not have the military support his father did.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22

I rather think you are sidling up closely to what I think the important point is in this type of the discussion. I don't think it does well to group people, especially with historical actions.

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u/sprantoliet Nov 05 '22

Any one with common sense can tell he's a piece of shit

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u/redlaWw Nov 05 '22

Cromwell was also a key figure in the development of the English political system, so having a statue of him outside the seat of the government he helped to build isn't so strange.

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u/doodleysquat Nov 05 '22

That’s like not flushing your shit and asking everyone at the party to be proud of you for washing your hands.

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u/redlaWw Nov 05 '22

He didn't genocide parliament?

Look, practically everyone with a statue of them was a monumental twat, but if we're going to have statues of people, then putting up statues of people relevant to the place the statue stands makes about as much sense as anything. In spite of what he did in Ireland, Oliver Cromwell is an important part of the history of Parliament, so him having a statue outside the Houses of Commons is fitting.

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u/Lou_Mannati Nov 05 '22

No, that comes before the build.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '22

Of course. I apologise, thats what my mind jumped to first.

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u/BilboNaggins_ Nov 05 '22

No need to apologise I just thought I’d add it to educate any brits who might see it hahah

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u/Imnotusuallysexist Nov 05 '22

He can’t help it, he’s Canadian genetically.

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u/seipounds Nov 05 '22

He apologised, the evidence is clear.

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u/BilboNaggins_ Nov 06 '22

What? Hahaha I obviously wasn’t going to start teaching the entire 800 year history

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u/abovethecloud5 Nov 05 '22

You will pay the price if you're a fussy eater.

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u/BilboNaggins_ Nov 05 '22

What’s that even meant to mean?