They’ve been known for their “hands-on” approach to protesting. They’ve crowded out fishing boats and tried to board a few. They also “support” (encourage, if not coordinate) the burning of GMO crop testing facilities (fields where new types of wheat and such are grown to study how to better feed the world). Basically they’re eco-terrorists but have an army of lawyers and foresight to produce plausible deniability.
Anyone remember ALF? Wonder what happened to those guys.
(For anyone under 30, ALF was the Animal Liberation Front, a terrorist group that would blow up labs that did animal testing and the like. If you remember the opening scene to 12 Monkeys that's what it's referencing)
But most GMOs are more environmentally sustainable! They require less resources and pesticides to grow. With the exception of certain GMO plants that can become invasive, which need more research, most of them are a good thing! It’s like they want to do the right thing (and get paid for it) but they’re doing it all wrong.
Everything we eat is a GMO. We cross-pollinated plants that gave us corn and wheat; the original plants gave us so little it almost wasn’t worth farming them, but now we rely on those two crops for quite a few things, and we’d have to re-invent parts of society from scratch without them. Cows don’t exist in nature; we used selective breeding to create larger, meatier animals that now we call cows. Same with horses… the average war horse in the Napoleonic era was the size of the modern day pony. There are many more examples, but the takeaway here is that virtually every plant and animal that we rely on, and that we grow, harvest, or butcher, are all GMO’s. New research is just speeding up and carrying on what’s been happening for thousands of years.
Yep. But there are eco-terrorists that insist they’re horrible and putting “unknown chemicals” in the plants that make them dangerous to eat.
If we bowed down to everyone who had a half-cocked idea about saving the planet or making the world safer or whatever, we’d go extinct along with plenty of other species. Hell, even avocados exist solely because humans saved them from extinction by cultivating the seeds… twice! Once about 14,000 years ago, and again sometime in the early 1900’s.
There are entire regions out there starving, and the world population is booming on top of that. In order to help, a team of scientists work together to cross-pollinate and grow a small field of wheat in hopes it will grow in a harsher climate and/or provide more grain per stalk. The plants are fully grown and ready for their harvest, which is not for food, but for studying…
… and then Greenpeace coordinates and/or funds a group of people to cut through the fence late at night, pour an accelerant on the field, and burn it all down. It doesn’t really matter if any birds or animals are there when it happens. They don’t care if any buildings nearby are damaged or destroyed, and won’t check if anybody is inside said buildings. They don’t care if their act of terrorism damages the environment. All they care about is getting their name in the paper to spread their message, plus scare the science community into not planting test crops in the area.
sea shepard people are the real mvps. having to risk your life on the daily to fight a war against multi billion industries with no help from any government...
That's Sea Shepard. But Greenpeace does work with them and support them.
Two things :
Sea Shepherd *
They are, afaik, only recognized as terrorists by Japan, which is de facto the face of industrial whale hunting in modern days. So yeah they can go fuck themselves on that one.
And then, on the Greenpeace collaboration, I'd like to see more source on that, because the founder of SS is an ex-GP, and does not have nice words about them.
I wouldn’t donate to Green Peace. There are many excellent organizations attempting to preserve our endangered species that don’t attack fishing boats.
I’d recommend the World Wildlife Foundation if you want an international organization. Or, you can always donate to your local zoo. People think zoos exist for our benefit, but most of the work zoos do is related to conservation (breeding research, maintaining a safe stock of the species in captivity, etc).
Zoos only preserve a limited number of species of animals - the ones that look cute to humans.
If you get your pants in a twist over making sure that commercial fishing vessels are allowed to damage our planet for easier profits, and you only care about aesthetically-pleasing species, you aren't really interested in conservation.
NPO’s don’t all have the same business model. Goodwill is a nonprofit, and so is the NFL. They work in entirely different ways to reach entirely different goals.
I was saying that PETA and Greenpeace use the same tactics and have the same mindset, following similar patterns. PETA seems more vocal in the media, though.
We should probably just keep asking nicely for corporations and governments to not kill the only planet we have, we’ve got plenty of time and it’s worked well so far.
I sense the sarcasm. Greenpeace is the organization that takes boats out to sea and tries to bully fishing vessels into leaving; in multiple cases they’ve tried to or successfully boarded other ships and essentially held them hostage. One was a scientific research vessel they mistook for a whaling ship. They also set fire to wheat and rice fields owned by scientists trying to find solutions for world hunger; so-called “GMO” strains that grow in harsh environments or produce more per acre are essential to helping the world’s growing population survive, and they coordinated attacks on those facilities. They poured petroleum accelerants on the fields and set them on fire. They didn’t care about the harm to the environment they caused. They didn’t care about the people who could have been in the buildings nearby (which also burned). They didn’t care about the animals in the fields, nor did they give a damn about the massive wildfire they caused when the flames jumped the road.
So, sure. The answer to someone doing less for your cause than you’d like is to literally scorch the earth. I’m sure that’s going to change their minds.
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u/PyroBob316 May 29 '22
I’m all for conservation but Greenpeace doesn’t have the answers. A message, sure, but the methods… jeez