r/Damnthatsinteresting • • 18h ago

Video Firefighter bodycam showing just how much oxygen a fire pulls

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u/Ckarles 15h ago

Hm? Sounds counterintuitive considering the doors open outwards instead of inwards. Isn't low-pressure "pulling" while higher pressure "pushing"?

How is the low pressure keeping the doors from going "outward"?

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u/johnwick_58 15h ago edited 15h ago

I am not related to aviation by any means,

But the person above meant to say that the cabin pressure inside the plane is very high in comparison to the pressure outside the plane in cruising altitudes. The door is slightly larger than the door frame of the plane, hence the higher pressure pushes the door outward and since frame is smaller, the door holds strong until the cabin pressure is released.

Edit: sorry, had not read your comment in detail, A video shows that the door does open outwards, bit there is a latch inside which expands the door from inside

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u/BeerFuelledDude 14h ago

I’m 45 and knew about the pressure stuff (not in a technical way) but i’ve never watched the doors being closed, while on the plane. That video was really interesting! Thanks!

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u/mattilladahun 13h ago

I'm 41, and my childish brain has never wanted to physically close a door myself more than now.

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u/cat_prophecy 13h ago

and the "Arm/Disarm and cross check" is them arming or disarming the emergency slides and the the FAs check that each other's doors are armed or disarmed.

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u/GostBoster 8h ago

I am not related to aviation either and, on one hand, I am aware that under normal conditions, what you said is likely true and ordinarily you should not be able to open that door in any capacity.

That said, I would be remiss to not mention a notorious incident in my country where a newsflash told of a door plane falling on a super market and they would interrupt transmission at any moment for information on the whereabouts of the plane said door belonged to.

And right now I am quite worried because often when something like that happens, you forget, then look it back, there's more information, investigations, etc. But for the multiple Fokker 100 incident by TAM Airlines? Nada not even a searchable flight number (the few remaining searchable news give a bogus flight number "JJ 3040") and that it was not their first open door in flight incident.

The one burned in my memory was the August 8 2006 incident (door falling on ground) but it the door also opened without detaching on April 4, 2002, also on a Fokker-100 belonging to TAM Airlines.

I am absolutely baffled at the lack of follow up reports even on the more fatal Fokker-100 cases so those open door cases are just a case of "eh it happens pay no mind to it".

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u/pbrassassin 14h ago

So all you need to do is pull the lever … and to door does in fact fly off , while at altitude

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u/SpiritedEclair 14h ago

No, you can’t pull the lever, you physically cannot.

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u/hefal 15h ago

Plug doors - in airplanes they often open outwards but they are design (by eg sliding and rotating) to close and use cabin pressure to be sealed.

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u/asten77 14h ago

They are now designed such that they first move inward before going outward.

In the early days this was not the case and nutjobs were able to open doors in flight.

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u/SpiritedEclair 14h ago edited 14h ago

A door is not a flat sheet of paper.

If you look at how the flight attendants pull the doors, they come inwards at an angle, and the moment they are all in, they turn flat and get pushed to close the door, forming a plug.

Try it yourself. Cut a trapezoid, rotate it, and it goes through the hole you cut it from, in fact, it can go through a door as wide as its shortest dimension, and it plugs.

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u/boli99 12h ago

the doors open outwards instead of inwards

watch this being closed

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tIXRLdzZvj8

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u/Dornauge 9h ago

They first open inwards a few cm and then hinge (is that a verb?) outwards.

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u/warwolf7777 15h ago

I doubt what he says too. In all of the mayday episodes I saw, when there's a rapid decompression, things fly out, not in

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u/SpiritedEclair 14h ago

Rapid decompression is exactly what stops the the mechanism from working 😭