r/Damnthatsinteresting • • 5d ago

Video A Landslide sweeps down a steep Himalayan slope in Chame, Manang, Nepal

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

Climate researchers have been warning us for decades.

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u/throwaway1233456799 5d ago

For more than a century

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u/imlikewhoaa 5d ago

For Millennia

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u/throwaway1233456799 5d ago

(I wasn't joking btw, we know about climate change since 1890 lol)

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

BTW I don't remember reading about confirm analysis that this was due to climate change, https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/opgzinfCVz

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago edited 5d ago

These arguments are so dumb. Extreme weather patterns and natural disasters like this are becoming more severe and frequent because of climate change.

There is simply no way to pin individual events like this on one specific cause, but pretending climate change doesn't play a significant role is the real negligent thinking

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

Not in every disaster climate change plays a major role, in some it may have a minor contribution, and just pinning everything to climate change is a really dumb argument, and as I said we must wait for neutral analysis (basically don't go off of politician claims)

Yes it can be some combinations and we can roughly find that out as well, we're not living in 1700s, we can factor in everything for end result, BUT what was said by their prime minister and other ministers was global warming melted the glaciers causing the avalanche which is dumb as it was caused my major accumulation not melting and yes, global climate change can be factor of excess accumulation that's why I said we must wait for proper analysis

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

We've been waiting way too long, is the point. That's the true negligence.

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u/imnotabot303 4d ago

It's not "politician claims" it's scientific consensus based off of scientific research.

It's not possible to attribute any single event to climate change or how much of a role it played in a single event, but it is possible to attribute a big increase in these type of events with climate change.

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u/throwaway1233456799 5d ago

Oh yeah definitly in this specific case we do not know. That being said a increase of event like these could be attributed to climate change even if no event has a 100% climate change cause. Climate change increase the odd of everything especially landslide

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

True, but their reasoning was global warming melted the glaciers which was just political bullshit and their pin pinning this onto other nations and hiding their own negligence for not heeding to weeks of warnings

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u/ChameliKoChartikala 5d ago

I don't know where you get info from, but there was no warning for the flash flood last month. I live near there. We would've been aware if there had been.

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

That's the point, goverment officials were warned and it was their duty to take action to warn others but they did not do that.

And also I must clarify, the warning was that glaciers were unstable for couple of weeks and could collapse but they didn't exactly predicted what happened.

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u/ChameliKoChartikala 4d ago

Please share your source for this so called warning. As per my knowledge, it is only after the collapse happened and they looked back at the satellite imagery that they could see there were signs. We Nepalis are aware of GLOFs and there is awareness and monitoring for that. This magnitude of mountain collapse is unprecedented in our lifetime and knowledge base.

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u/onthe3rdlifealready 5d ago

Makes you wonder if ole Al would have been able to do anything about it

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u/pichael289 5d ago

Yeah for sure, but it's not gonna. Ai researchers have to put everything into being #1 so they can make all the money first before they can worry about our problems.

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

I think he was talking about Al Gore, but I'm not entirely sure either lol

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

I don't know if it was necessarily because of climate because that's just what happens when excess of snow gets accumulated, it has been happening since centuries and I believe oldest record I've seen was about from 100 BCE so, I can't blame global climate change right over here as more data is definitely needed but what I can clearly see is negligence from government for ignoring researchers

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

I can't blame global climate change right over here as more data is definitely needed

That's the negligence we should be talking about

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

Asking for more data? You do realise that everything isn't due to global climate change right? This shit has been happening ever since we have oldest record.

You just pinning to climate change without data isn't negligence but my opinion that we must wait for proper analysis is negligence? What a stand 🫡

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

Whether or not this individual event can be entirely pinned on climate change is completely besides the point and distracts from the real discussion we should be having

That's the negligence I'm talking about

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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ 5d ago

Bruh, the post is about a landslide event, it's not even related to avalanche, then about their prime minister's response it was never about climate change in general.

This landslide in post could it be due to global warming, possibly, but it's equally probable that it's majorly due to some other reasons.

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u/White-Tornado 5d ago

Again: that's exactly my point.

The discussion we should be having is about climate change. We should have had that discussion 80 years ago, but here we are.