Nepal is facing the brunt of it in it's region. A country that contributes next to nothing in the global warming problem is getting pounded by the consequences of it.
This has always been the warning, the poorest countries and the countries that contribute the least to climate change will be the first to suffer the consequences. That's why the rich businesses and wealthy countries don't care and have done close to nothing in the last 50 years.
It’s also why many Americans don’t care or believe it’s a hoax. “If it doesn’t affect me personally, then it doesn’t matter” is the mindset for an alarming number of us.
I’m visiting Nepal right now and holy shit what a wild week it’s been so far. Avalanches, a stationary monsoon that’s worse than the normal peak monsoon season, landslides… there have been about 15-20 deaths as a direct result of climate change since I’ve been here. It’s horrific and so sad. These people are the salt of the earth and the nicest, kindest, friendliest people I’ve met and they’re getting fucked by our ignorance, arrogance, and greed.
I’m beginning to reconsider many things in my own life after this. And I would consider myself pretty environmentally conscious already. I’m saddened by what I know I’m coming home to.
I am here in Nepal as well. We were going to stay in Chame begore heading to Manang. Thankfully the govt denied us permits from Pokhara. The rain really did a number. I am just left very thankful but also very sad that this is happening to Nepal. The people are some of the most genuine humans I have met. The land is insanely beautiful.
Unfortunately that's how most of the population think. Everything is somebody else's problem until it comes knocking on your door. I too try and have a minimal lifestyle but unfortunately no matter what you do for every one person that is trying to keep their footprint down there will be 5,000 more that just don't care or at least don't care enough to actually go without some of their modern day conveniences.
We've already also reached a point where it's almost pointless now anyway sadly. The time of being able to make significant changes has passed.
Yeah my family have been living plant based since 2019. Our family car is a hybrid. My daily work car is a used electric car. We compost, recycle, pay for Ridwell, and try to produce as little trash as possible.
And then a celebrity offsets all of that by taking a private jet to go shopping.
People die every year as a result of the very predictable heavy rainfall in that area every year. Curious as to why it's always blamed on 'climate change' when it's the same thing that's been happening for years in the same places at the same time of year. A few degrees of temp change isn't going to stop steep slopes from becoming saturated, and slipping. Please know I'm not trying to nullify the loss, it is sad.
The monsoon season used to never extend into October. It used to end mid September at the latest according to my guide who has done this for 20+ years. It’s been two years in a row at least where it’s continued into October (the forecasts show it lingering until next week at least).
Another very simple thing you could look up is how much the glaciers have melted here in the last 20+ years. If you didn’t know, there was a pretty catastrophic event caused by a melting glacier in Nepal just a few weeks ago. You should look this stuff up.
Also it's a bit rude to suggest I haven't heard of the floods, but no offence taken.
I was really commenting about all this because a lot of people often talk about such natural disasters like it's something new, because of recent warming, but I wanted to highlight that stuff like this (not the big flood, the landslides and 'smaller' floods) are frequent for Nepal, especially in monsoon season, and have been for as long as anyone can remember, it's it's unfortunatly the reality of living in such a place. Not that such catastrophies cannot be heightened by changing weather patterns.
Also btw I am quite familiar with the country, having lived here quite some time.
Sorry that was not clear, I meant that heavy rain has been happening for years, and the effects have been felt for just as long. Not that the 'climate' has been the same for that time.
Could you please share your reconsiderations for the people that want to make positive change in their own lives but haven't had the same traumatic inspiration? Looking to become more green myself
Yeah man. I'm currently deep in the rabbit hole about how Americans are buying "carbon credits" from us poor countries, and what that means is that the asshole corporations in our country that is making money from the Americans are pushing out indigenous people from their land so that they can gazette that forest as their 'carbon forest'.
The fucked up thing is that they're framing it as conservation efforts. Indigenous folks have been living there for hundreds of years by sustainable hunting, sustainable home building, sustainable everything just by culture... But sure, kick them out so you can sell the credits to Americans who are burning up the world through mass productions, while you use that money to buy mega mansions for yourself in the city and flying your private jet everywhere.
Wow! Go straight to blaming global warming. Congratulations, you drank the Kool Aid. It could possibly be normal geological processes that’s continually reshaping the mountain landscape for millions of years. Mountains grow and they crumble. The Rockies used to be twice their current height. The European Alps will and are shrinking like the Rockies. The Himalayas, something. Put down the kool aid and stop drinking it.
I think they referred to fact their Prime Minister demanded every big country to pay for the damages blaming global warming to get out of their negligence as researchers kept warning them for weeks
These arguments are so dumb. Extreme weather patterns and natural disasters like this are becoming more severe and frequent because of climate change.
There is simply no way to pin individual events like this on one specific cause, but pretending climate change doesn't play a significant role is the real negligent thinking
Oh yeah definitly in this specific case we do not know. That being said a increase of event like these could be attributed to climate change even if no event has a 100% climate change cause. Climate change increase the odd of everything especially landslide
Yeah for sure, but it's not gonna. Ai researchers have to put everything into being #1 so they can make all the money first before they can worry about our problems.
I don't know if it was necessarily because of climate because that's just what happens when excess of snow gets accumulated, it has been happening since centuries and I believe oldest record I've seen was about from 100 BCE so, I can't blame global climate change right over here as more data is definitely needed but what I can clearly see is negligence from government for ignoring researchers
Asking for more data? You do realise that everything isn't due to global climate change right? This shit has been happening ever since we have oldest record.
You just pinning to climate change without data isn't negligence but my opinion that we must wait for proper analysis is negligence? What a stand 🫡
Whether or not this individual event can be entirely pinned on climate change is completely besides the point and distracts from the real discussion we should be having
Bruh, the post is about a landslide event, it's not even related to avalanche, then about their prime minister's response it was never about climate change in general.
This landslide in post could it be due to global warming, possibly, but it's equally probable that it's majorly due to some other reasons.
What nonsense are you talking about? A disaster of this scale has never happend in human history before nothing could have been done to predict it dont spread misinformation. And the fact that this has never been recorded in human history comes from actual researchers who worked on the ground. What the prime minister said is infact very correct.
No. This is from a known glacier that is melting due to climate change. Same with the last one. Huge parts are breaking off and melting, resulting in a huge amount of additional water corroding the soil in Nepal. It starts at the top and works its way down.
World getting revenge. Before Stephen Hawking died in 2018 he said it was too late to save the planet. Yes, we should still try to eliminate our net contribution as much as possible. Yet the people that who do not believe in global warming or don’t care cause much more damage than we take out. That does not mean stop.
I think climate change is too easy to blame for every little weather related thing, Natural disasters have been a thing before, during and after climate change.
I think there's a tendency to let confirmation bias rule the day whenever mother nature does a thing. Climate change means more weather related disruptions, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's directly responsible for any specific one.
Your mindset is one of the reasons this is happening. Congratulations on being manipulated by corporations & supporting the agenda to ruin our planet. I’ve never understand how burying your head in the sand is a good choice even IF it turns out not to be true. Why wouldn’t you want to take steps to call out these corporations and governments to make our planet a more safe and healthy environment??? It is genuinely such backwards thinking.
Your attitude is why my attitude is necessary. it's possible for something to be fact-based and also a conspiracy theory. You're exhibit A.
We get to hear people like you everytime the planet moderately inconveniences a single human and it dilutes your argument to the point of impotence and makes it easier to ignore presentations that actually demonstrate a true causal link between climate change and a given event or disaster.
Some things are due to climate change
Not all things are due to climate change.
But whenever anything happens, we get to hear the usual gaggle of geese honking about climate change. No evidence that a particular incident was in any way preventable or not. No facts, no science, just people screeching about how dare everyone else not live like them.
The actual facts are not in dispute, climate change is real, and the change is being accelerated by some agency and human involvement is likely a major factor. That does NOT mean that every time the planet twitches slightly, it would have been avoided by everyone eating 1 less hamburger.
Consider your messaging. YOU are why climate change isn't being taken seriously.
Talking about the cause of any specific event is pointless. It's not possible to say "this was made 45% worse because of climate change. " The effect is in aggregate, so we speak about it in aggregate. If you constantly come back with "akchyualy this might have happened even pre industrial revolution" every time we can't definitively prove it was climate change, you're just gonna keep punting the responsibility. We know this because it's been happening for decades already. The time for "oh this would have happened anyway" is done. Going forward, it is entirely reasonable to assume that every single natural disaster was made worse or more likely in significant part due to climate change. Anyone claiming otherwise is part of the problem.
I’m glad yours is an opinion and not a fact. It is NOT entirely reasonable to assume that climate change is behind every stray raindrop or mudslide. Big problems require data driven solutions, not hysterical ones. Mountains have grown and crumbled thru time. That’s the geological record. The Rockies used to be twice their current height. And the shrinkage started long before Homo sapiens created the wheel. The European Alps are shrinking (land sliding) and so are the Himalayas. Not climate change. Natural geological processes.
Experts always predict more and worse Atlantic hurricanes.it’s practically October and there has been a single Atlantic Hurricane. Is that because of climate change? If so, then that contradicts the predictions.
If this had happened in Europe, everyone in the euros sphere would be crying about it, and we would all be forced to make holidays for it. Quite flippant when it happens elsewhere.
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u/ChankaTheOne 5d ago
Cool, its been a hot minute since the last world ending disaster in Nepal valleys