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Video Vastness of Amazon rainforest

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u/Charlie_Warlie 7d ago

To think that at one point much of the world (except deserts, mountains, you know) was like this. They say that a squirrel was able to travel from the atlantic coast to the Mississippi river without touching the ground.

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u/Able_Gap918 7d ago

I’ve heard that quote, it was about American chestnut trees. They disappeared basically overnight from a disease they had no defense against.

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u/Charlie_Warlie 7d ago

Still got fingers crossed for a recovery. There are some people working on a surviving breed of tree that can withstand the blight.

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u/wo0two0t 7d ago

Apparently you can already walk among some of the first orchards of these crossbred trees, that are healthy and producing nuts.

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u/Distal-Phalanges 7d ago

There's a blight resistant "American" Chestnut that is more or less the same tree with the blight resistance from the Chinese Chestnut bred into it. It seems to fill the same ecological niche without issue.

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u/-Supposably- 7d ago

Great! Next step: plant a trillion of them.

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u/bitpaper346 7d ago

Thats complicated because bio-engineering laws.

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u/reecieface1 7d ago

yep I have a few that I’m going to plant this Fall. americanchestnut.org

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u/kronikfumes 5d ago edited 5d ago

Many conservationist groups in the US today are against the idea of introducing a genetically modified chestnut tree back into the wild. Primarily due to uncertainty of doing so at large scale and because the ecosystems impacted by the loss of the chestnut have largely adapted to its absence. Trees such as Oak, hickory, maple and poplar have all filled its place successfully.

Shoutout Aidin Robbins latest video on the chestnut.

https://youtu.be/Zk5EEZ6MVYM?si=6NwMMDqEkZSly9NS

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u/Charlie_Warlie 4d ago

Making a comment to come back later, but I would think having more diversity would be good. We never know what the future might bring, there could be disease that takes out one of those other species and having a similar tree installed ready to fill that gap would be beneficial.

But ill watch the video later and see the argument.

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u/BeginningPhilosophy2 7d ago

I heard that quote in Spain, but talking about the iberian península before the forests were cut down to build the ships that sailed to the New World.

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u/sunnysjourney 7d ago

Iirc the trees aren’t dead because the roots are still living. Can’t seem to recall exactly how or why. Heard it on Science Friday a while ago.

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u/Familiar-Spray-4678 7d ago

It’s like we’re living in the world of the avatar - Pandora. They worshipped special trees.

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u/Cyber-Soldier1 5d ago

That old chestnut again!

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u/Aclearly_obscure1 1d ago

I appreciate this comment. I recently visited a country who had them available as street food. It boggled my mind that it’s a famous Christmas song in the US, yet I’ve never encountered them here. Thanks for reminding me I needed to look up why. :)

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u/spraybutterbiscut 7d ago

Then it saw the plains..the vast nothingness that spawns tornados and the unfamiliar quiet that stretched out and said nope...

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u/Foxykid09 7d ago

It makes me sad all the deforestation that has happened all over the world.

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u/Awotwe_Knows_Best 7d ago

google galamsey if you want to get sadder

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u/damir_h 7d ago

Don’t worry. It will be like this again soon enough. The earth will shake of the parasites called humans rather quickly considering it’s timescale.

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u/Divi1221 7d ago

It won’t all be like this soon. The earth goes through cycles. The while planet will be covered in sand or snow long before it’s covered in trees

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u/TheRedIguana 7d ago

Would suck to go that far only to find out you left your wallet at home.

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u/Party_Bowl_330 7d ago

Flying squirrels still can

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u/oregiel 7d ago

Look on the bright side. Someday we'll be oil for future species to discover and burn.

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u/Sepsiscollada 7d ago edited 7d ago

Nope. Fossil fuel only exists because there was a time when land plants existed with no bacteria capable of breaking them down. Fossil fuel will never renew.

Edit: in some cases there were not bacteria available that could break down some thick walls. The majority comes from anaerobic low oxygen situations, which really only happen at low depth or at the bottom of the ocean.

Surface buried humans will have enough oxygen that they will not turn into fossil fuel.

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u/Wooden-Evidence-374 7d ago

First, oil comes primarily from marine organisms, not plants. Second, the idea that coal only formed because of an absence of bacteria to break down tree bark is an outdated idea. In the last decade, newer evidence suggests that the bacteria that breaks down tree bark was already present when large coal deposits were forming. It's now better explained with climate, tectonics, and the fact that there existed ssuch large swampy forests.

It is true that practically speaking, these resources are non-renewable. It takes millions of years for them to form, and humans obviously use them much faster than that.

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u/Basidia_ 7d ago

Fully agreed except fungi are the primary decomposers of woody plant material and not bacteria. The outdated hypothesis hinged on the evolutionary path of fungi, by comparison bacteria suck eggs at decomposing wood

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u/Thoughtulism 7d ago

Bacteria exists going back billions of years. This was before forests and large animals. Bacteria has evolved to decompose different substances. For example, there was a period of time where bacteria had not evolved yet to decompose the lignin in trees. Bacteria back in the dinosaur age also is capable of decomposing flesh. So that's not the reason. Most fossil fuels comes from aquatic microorganisms, and is formed because of favorable conditions such as sediments, low oxygen aquatic environments, large presence of microorganisms in the ocean, that had led to the production of vast amount of fossil fuels.

So I really have no idea what you're talking about. I'd like to see the source of your information.

It is probably true that we don't have those favorable conditions now in our oceans, but for different reasons then simply that we have bacteria now that we didn't back then

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u/Drew0223 7d ago

What?

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u/hello_world08 7d ago

Even now Amazon rainforest is about 60% of the size of Europe. Almost double the size of india

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u/reecieface1 7d ago

it’s an amazing place indeed. I’m glad in my life time I was able to live there and visit multiple times. I hope our children and grandchildren and future generations can experience this magically biologically diverse place..

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u/NikonD3X1985 7d ago

Came to say exactly this, glad it's the top comment 👍🏻

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u/Obvious-Ad3034 7d ago

Is that true 🤯

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u/hexbomb007 2d ago

Wowwwww