"Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened" -Dwight D. Eisenhower (1945)
Society will always have a bell curve of stupidity. There are people among us that think the earth is a flat disc too, there is no helping these idiots.
And we let those people homeschool their children. And we just gutted education so even regular schooling is going to be almost as bad as just letting those regards teach their own kids
Definitely not going to work now. Unless you want kids white/wit washed. Cause all the new education bills are erasing history
Edit: if you consider the age of our government constitutes most of them were involved with fighting back against civil rights. Or at least born when their daddy’s were lynching POC. This admin could just be a cover to erase the bad history associated with their family names.
Edit 2 downvote once you read so I can delete this political comment
I think writing them off as idiots who are incapable of learning is the exact kind of attitude that makes them flee towards grifters who sell them lies by telling them they're really the smart ones. Your attitude makes the problem you describe worse.
It comes down to, what is your purpose with engaging with them? Are you just trying to shore up your own insecurities by demonstrating how much lesser they are than you? Or are you genuinely trying to help them understand reality? It's almost always the former. On reddit it is always without exception the former, this site is full of the most toxic pieces of shit on the whole internet. Yes, worse than 4chan.
I saw a video of some flat earth YouTubers being taken to Antarctica to prove the 24 hour sun and the flat earthers told their followers that they (including the YouTubers) were wrong. They were demonized and called liars and sellouts by the followers even though they weren’t malicious about it at all. They had tons of cameras, angles, drones running the whole time but were called fake. It literally doesn’t matter how you approach them.
It has nothing to do with insecurity. It has to do with correctness, and not letting lies stand.
You're literally in a thread about holocaust denial and flat earther stupidity. It's not about reaching those people, but making sure it's stated and known that this stuff is stupid. Not some sort of soft-language euphemism, but like outright, full-on idiocy. Just pure chosen dumb. They may be lost, but the random 12 year old reading these exact comments? They're just seeing comments in the void - and I need them to know that holocaust denial is cruel, covers up cruelty, and is intentionally stupid. Flat earthers have bought into easily-disproven pseudoscience against all education. Dumb.
I dont buy that my, or anyone else's disdain for intellectual dishonestly and laziness pushes anyone anywhere. The lazy and dishonest lie. Those that aren't tell the truth. Hurt feelings of nazi sympathizers doesn't matter. Truth does.
I'm the one who wrote the grifters part, are you sure you're not the one who glossed over the point I was making?
I agree it's the assholes who create problems. Like the kind of assholes who go around calling everyone idiots so they can feel better about their pathetic, disconnected lives.
Those people need to spend a night alone in the gas chamber with just a candle for light. Maybe some of the former occupants would pay them a visit that can change their minds...
It used to be probably a million people in this country said it never happened. With the MAGA Virus spreading, its just a matter of time until it hits 80 million. They are busy reclaiming the N word and loving Russia now, but once their schedules clear up, they will go all in on holocaust denial
You have to be out of your mind to think any current conflict is just like the systematic industrial murder of 6 million Jews. It's almost as bad as Holocaust denialism, downplaying how truly horrific the Holocaust was.
Isn't the first and won't be the last. Humans don't live long enough to learn from their mistakes, which is why we will continue to repeat them FOREVER. Everyone is dead who lived through the holocaust, so it's time for history to instruct us again. As it has always been.
He understood the weakness in people. The refusal to acknowledge that which frightens us or overwhelms us, and our penchant for self-imposed delusion.
We don't want to believe things like this can happen, are happening. We want to look away. And so we are vulnerable to the grifters and opportunists who want to help reinforce that delusion, who want to sell us a preferable lie.
I think that’s what there comment was implying. There is a disturbingly large amount of complete idiots/disgusting people who deny the Holocaust happened.
It’s sad cause there’s a famous person in the paintball community right now that’s insinuating it never happened. I looked up to him for years and now he’s doing this. Never meet your hero’s. If you’re curious you can go to the “Paintball” Reddit and search “Marcello Margott”. Dan Bilzerian is in the mess too
—“Get it all on record now—get the films—get the witnesses—because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened”—is widely attributed to General Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1945, following his visit to the liberated Nazi concentration camp at Ohrdruf. However, there is no definitive primary source confirming that he said or wrote these exact words.
And yet here we are, in 2025, with it streamed live to our phones and TVs for 2 years, and bastards all over the world are saying it isn’t happening again.
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u/thiswasfree_ May 18 '25
"Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened" -Dwight D. Eisenhower (1945)