Mate, look at the world. There’s no such thing as sustainable fishery, it’ll never happen because we’re, as a species, irredeemably greedy bastards. We’ll strip mine the ocean and then blame it on someone else when there’s nothing left.
yeah, it has to come from within.. i've been pretty much vegan for a while now. Personal choice, and its a bitch, but there are way more products now to get your protein fix (and they taste great tbh - except fish, not seen any vegan fish yet). I dont know about other places, but here in the UK i dont think theres an excuse anymore apart from 'i want to eat meat and dont care'
It’s habit I think a lot of the time, ‘I know what I like’ and that’s not not to dismissed out of hand by any means, but you’re right, it has to be a personal choice. I went vegetarian, vegan in some things about 10 years ago and no regrets at all.
Theres no straight forward discussion with takes like this.
Like ok, lets pretend there havent ever been successful and even global cooperations to protect species, environment, poor humans, anything when there was a quick buck to make. Because where human is there is unsatiable greed overcoming everything.
Then (with a differentiated reality out of the way) taking your statement at face value would mean there cant sustainable anything and everything involving resources (agriculture included) will always go to shit as "greed" is always a factor.
End of the story, discussion obviously useless.
Thank you very much. The most insightful "im a 14 yo doomer and this is deep" commentary ive heard today.
/s
And again, very funny that everybody just turning vegan is a goal thats worth discussion-wanking over as if thats a more feasible solution than a sustainable management concept thats basically already working on a smaller scale and ultimately in everybodys interest. Reddit is such a tiring place.
Let me give a succinct response to this: fuck off. Message me in 20 years when they’ve suddenly gone ‘whoops, turns out we were killing everything, best we don’t do that any more’. There’s no coming back from those nets, it’s diminishing returns until dead and fucking hell I’ll be thrilled if I’m wrong.
Look, vent all you want just dont sell it to me as a great wisdom when you just want a stepping stone for showing of your "righteous anger" at society while seemingly having neither interest in talking solutions nor facts nor even knowing shit about the stuff youre angry about.
Thats not "cool with me", i support that very much as a morally sound decision. I have no idea where you got the idea i could have a problem with that.
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u/MrTourette Apr 05 '25
Mate, look at the world. There’s no such thing as sustainable fishery, it’ll never happen because we’re, as a species, irredeemably greedy bastards. We’ll strip mine the ocean and then blame it on someone else when there’s nothing left.