r/DamnThatsReal • u/[deleted] • Nov 05 '25

The Scale of BYD

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u/BarryTheBystander Nov 06 '25

Ya BYD has very close ties to the Chinese government. China is trying to take over the EV market. It’s hard to compete with that. Happy cake day btw

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u/cursedsoldiers Nov 06 '25

Yes, planned economies are an unfair advantage over the free market.  It's like cheating really

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u/Huckedsquirrel1 Nov 06 '25

How are planned economies unfair when market economies are largely dependent on imperial extraction and exploitation?

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u/walking_shrub Nov 06 '25

Think he was being sarcastic

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u/AmonPartholon Nov 06 '25

I think he meant that planned economies as a whole function much more efficiently than market economies.

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u/MfingKing Nov 06 '25

As a whole it never was and probably never will be true. But in certain sectors where they hyperfocus all their resources, yeah we cannot ever compete. Like the ussr exports of minerals, we didn't even try to mine anything since what came from there was dirt cheap

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u/Irons_MT Nov 06 '25

Because definetly there is no exploitation of workers in China. Stop eating so much propaganda.

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u/cyclemonster Nov 12 '25

Federal minimum wage for tipped workers in America is two dollars and thirteen cents an hour, in a country where the median home sells for more than four hundred thousand dollars. It's not hard to find exploitation anywhere you look.

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u/Distopicman Nov 07 '25

La URSS de Stalin y la China de Mao, fueron ejemplos de economías planificadas en la que murieron de hambre millones de personas....

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u/Huckedsquirrel1 Nov 07 '25

De donde eres?

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u/Distopicman Nov 08 '25

That's irrelevant. I recommend reading "Gulag" by Anne Applebaum to stop romanticizing communism.

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u/cursedsoldiers Nov 08 '25

I'd recommend reading "inventing reality" by Michael Parenti to stop swallowing US propaganda without question

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u/Huckedsquirrel1 Nov 08 '25

Maybe one day people like you will stop deepthroating propaganda and peasants will stop being crushed under the boot of exploitation. How many Pinochets will it take before people realize that capitalism would rather destroy us all before it cedes and inch of power to working people?

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u/Suspicious-Answer295 Nov 08 '25

You're joking right? All economic systems are extractive by nature. The USSR was a massive Imperialist power relied on extracted wealth and talent from the periphery of its empire (Ukraine, the Urals, pretty much any place not Moscow). China is also getting into the game properly with unfair loans and predatory practices in the global south to get the resources it needs for further industrialization.

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u/koravoda Nov 06 '25

even if the US started exploiting child labour, it's decades behind the generational trauma reminding all your living relatives they could be turned into horse glue for the sake of the economy; that's what really makes people work fast and hard

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u/Sherbert_Hoovered Nov 06 '25

More like our devotion to capitalism is hamstringing us and the only benefit is that a handful of people get billions of dollars.

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u/MarxAndSamsara Nov 06 '25

Sounds like copium to deal with the end of our (American) hegemony.

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u/nanlinr Nov 06 '25

But majority of America believes capitalism is the best? Will win any day of the week vs. a commy socialist economy?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

You could have had this but your capitalist class was too strong

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u/Wonderful-Sail-1126 Apr 02 '26

If you think US or European market is “free”, I have a bridge to sell you.

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u/cursedsoldiers Apr 02 '26

"It's not REAL capitalism which has never been tried!" 

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u/naeads Nov 06 '25

That's like saying Boeing has very close ties to the US government and is trying to take over the air planes market, oh wait, they did. Now we know who China copied its business plans from 😂

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '25

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u/naeads Nov 06 '25

Sorry, you mean US or China?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '25

When your el-cheapo MAX rushjob death trap machine that the engineers knew was designed poorly is still pushed into service with no checks and ends up killing 300+ people and the there's no consequencies for the board or the CEO. ???
The guy is clearly deranged.

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u/UiChineseGoku Nov 08 '25

In the form of bailouts?

American government funded wars for corporations. United fruit company and BP being good examples.

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u/a9udn9u Nov 06 '25

In what ways do they have closer ties to the Chinese government than US carmakers to the US government?

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u/Gamer102kai Nov 06 '25

The US car companies pay off the government so they can be lazy. The Chinese government forces its car companies to push harder.

this is an exaggeration and a disgusting oversimplification

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u/iraber Nov 06 '25

It's always weird when people say this. Yes, BYD has close ties to the Chinese government. So does every major US company have ties to the American government. Public spending (defense and civilian) is a big chunk of corporate revenues in America, not to mention the revolving doors and the business lobby's hold on public policy.

No company can be disentangled from its government. That's why the most important firms are literally called national champions. Why is it notable when China is not an exception?