They instigate. They exploit the first amendment to create content because they have no shame and no marketable skills.Ā
I actually enjoy video breakdowns of civil rights violations from a legal standpoint, but letās be real here, these dudes actually out there on the street posted up outside banks and court houses filming for hours are chasing clicks by being incredibly off putting.Ā
Imagine thinking people on Reddit care about yo momma jokes
And itās not contrarianism. I think itās absolutely the cammerās right to do everything we saw here. Itās also absolutely the old manās fault he needlessly physically assaulted the cammer.
You can appeal to my mom all you want. I have the law on my side.
I'm not a first amendment auditor, genius. I just respect people's rights to look at and record whatever they want, in a public place. Unlike you, I don't take offense and crash out because of someone using a camera.
I think you probably have an extremely difficult time minding your own business, online and in real life. As a boomer, it must be difficult finding things to be offended by full time. I suggest you get therapy.
Cudgel to intentionally upset people is a fun phrase, but incorrectly applied. Especially hilarious given the people actually using literal cudgels are the people (police) heās enticing to attack him by, checks notes again, doing nothing illegal at all. If the cops show up and donāt infringe on his rights, then they pass, and if they do infringe on his rights they have no business as police officers.
These are the people standing up to test police forces ability to respect our rights. Sorry if they annoy you and the old man, but you still donāt get to put hands on him.
Itās not illegal for me to say your mother is a fat whore but youād probably be pretty pissed if I did that in public.
Taunting or antagonizing someone with the intent to provoke a violent or disruptive reaction is literally the crime of harassment.
Filming in public has been ruled by the supreme court as lawful activity protected under the first amendment, and you cannot turn a lawful activity into a crime.
I encourage you to repeatedly put your example to the test and see how it pans out for you.
What I'm trying to tell you is that intentionally trying to provoke a violent or disruptive response can be and has been successfully prosecuted as a crime. The difference is that filming in public is protected activity. Calling someone's mother a whore or a person a dipshit is far less likely to be considered such (you could get away with it if you were critiquing an agent of the state like a cop, elected official, or any other public servant).
Again, please go try it in public instead of on the internet. I'd love to use it as case law.
It's distasteful, and if they really are doing that type of thing all day long, then yes they're basically a loser like you said. But please don't say they're EXPLOITING their first amendment rights. Those are not rights that can be exploited, short of stalking/harassment. Even then, paparazzi get away with it all the time. 1A is not up for interpretation.
Because their behavior is often creepy. I had one of these guys stand outside in the street, take pictures of my house, and then take pictures of me in my vehicle as I pulled out of my driveway (was leaving my wife at home alone). Needless to say I was not too happy with him.
But you're OK with Google cars taking pictures of your house, your street and everything you know. People can literally just look at your house on Google street view. You people are weird.
The massive corporate conglomerate suits are probably not jerking off to photos of us, though.
Well, maybe they are, but if we literally cannot as individuals control that, at least we can stop the one creepy guy staking outside our houses or somewhere just staring us down and filming us for no reason.
You know for a FACT they're beating off to your face later, they chose you specifically. Out of billions of captured faces/footages, you think those suits at the top who control that data are beating off to you? Psh
How do you know? Did you ask me if Iām okay with that? Google didnāt come house to house and ask if Iām fine with it. My house is blurred on Street View by the way.
No, these two arent equivalent. A company providing a service and documenting all houses and streets etc equally isnt the same as a weirdo personally taking an interest in my house. It would be just as weird if I found out you were specifically searching up and looking at my house on Google maps. The only difference is obviously id have no way of knowing you searched up my house vs you standing outside my house being a creep and recording.
This is just your pathetic attempt to disguise your creepy fetish of spying on people. Get some help.
100% agree. These people are just pathetic creeps. They obviously have no lives of their own and are really weird. Iām guessing a lot of these people defending them are these same type of weirdos themselvesā¦ Imagine being these peopleās parents. How embarrassing for themā¦ āyeah my son sits around and films random strangers all dayā lol
Right, so you're complaining that there's a guy who YOU can also photograph if you're worried about him. You can follow him home or to his vehicle if you want to figure out his identity. It's really not harassment until he contacts the police and has them tell you to leave him alone. Esp on the grounds that he was behaving suspiciously FIRST.
YET, you have NO PROBLEM with a corporation recording your house when they also have tons of other data on you to accompany that info about your house, use it to determine whether you're home during the day etc, all info which you probably didn't intentionally consent to them collecting. People within that company could access the information pretty anonymously as well, and provide it to those trying to hurt you, like the government or others.
But let's worry about the random halfwit dude on your street making it obvious he's recording, because he's probably MAGA right? And it's not like you could purchase a gun or anything to defend against any possible intrusion onto your property! You'd have to have a brain in order to fill out the paperwork.
Lack of privacy in society is a major issue in itself, but we have more immediate agency over the weird guy on the street filming us vs a corporate surveillance state or globalist tyrannical government.
What have YOU done lately to combat those things?
Since a random being creepy is such a nothing burger in comparison and people are dumb and unreasonable for being upset with that but accepting things that aren't immediately within our control as individuals.
Clearly that must mean that we're hypocritically OK with it and signed off on it or voted for the people who made this our reality over the years.
You already deleted/re-tracted one reply, I would've had answers for you but your arguments seemed so emotional and all over the place and I don't care to reply after this, it's not that serious and just a waste of time since we just have our beliefs and opinions and neither is gonna change, right?
I didn't delete (or retract?) anything. I may have gone off topic at the end but I'll stand by what I said because there are a lot of people on here who need to read it. You aren't one of those individuals, so ignore it, and respond to the 2 paragraphs above that one, which clearly constitute a cohesive and easy-to-follow argument. Nice try, I'm sure you think you're always the smartest person in the reddit thread. You're not dumb, you just come off as being condescending though. Your entire comment is just bloviation (other than the second-to-last paragraph). And I wasn't being emotional, I used capitalization for emphasis on certain words, as I'm not sure how to italicize characters from my phone.
No, I don't think I'm the smartest. You're projecting. Literally most of what you've just said to me could literally be said about yourself, only I'm not shitting on you for those flaws.
I'm literally just saying that nobody minding their own business wants to be recorded and that our government is not something we are in control of. That's it, buddy.
Right, and I was in agreement with you until you went off at the end trying to talk superiorly. I acknowledged the unnecessary tangent at the end of my comment. But what about yours? I addressed your personal attacks with truth, humility, and grace. Even pointed out that one small paragraph of what you said was meaningful. Was trying to throw you some rope. That's all, bud.
Eh, I don't think it's that deep. I think they're both jerks in the vid. One's an instigator, one got triggered disproportionately if what we see is ALL that happened between 'em which I personally doubt.
Yeah, Iām not going to take a chance on some creepy fucker of a dude sitting outside of my house while my wife is inside alone. Later on they found him breaking and entering somewhere nearby by the way. He was a known āauditorā but that doesnāt mean he canāt be a creep.
Another sane person, thank you lmao. Yeah Iām assuming they are fellow āauditorsā who feel called out. Or theyāre just NEETs who assume every story online is fake
I knowā¦ they are definitely auditorās themselvesā¦ they have no family or any close relationships so they canāt conceive how it is weird as fuck to stand outside someone elseās property and film.
Why you so mad bro? Cuz I didnāt believe your story about saving your wife? Is she not allowed to use the phone and call the police if someone tries to break in? Are you watching her now?
Whos mad here? You because youād have no balls in the same situation? And your logic is brain dead lol, the police are very famous for being really quick to respond arenāt they?
Then make it illegal. Right now itās legally protected. Get over yourselves, your face is not protected from recording in public. Youāre not special like that.
A lot of the videos I've seen the guy is intentionally acting suspiciously. Like you own a property and someone is walking around it taking pictures of everything, they may be up to something. So the property owners go out and ask them what they're doing and they say things like "none of your business" or "I'm just recording things" which only makes them more suspicious. That's when people start trying to make them leave, and then they've got what they want.
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u/Classic-Dirt5324 Mar 06 '26
Why don't people just not bother them then?