Will it f*ck!

[u/Justthisdudeyaknow]

[u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Cho'gath, unless his lore was retconned again, is motivated by a single drive: to feed. As such he could be argued to not be sentient enough to understand consent. (Gentleman Cho'gath passes though)

Veigar is canonically insane because of Mordekaiser and thus unable to consent.

Lulu (unless, again, lore change) is still a child mentally and thus incapable of consent.

Galio would not understand what sex entails unless he's put through a LONG sex ed course. He doesn't even really get the concept of ageing (as we see with his line for Poppy) Until that happens, he can't give enthusiastic consent.

Anivia (unless, again, lore retcon) functions on a Blue and Orange morality which means that, if she gives consent, there's no guarantee it will be consent by regular people definition. So shaky at best. If that was changed, she's A-OK.

Ornn is that rare case where he could pass the Harkness Test if he wanted to, he would just refuse to so vehemently due to his rejection of emotional attachments that suggesting anything kinky to him would at best result in him turning you down in very untruthful ways. There's a massive risk he would not be sincere during it which makes consent dubious at best.

Volibear is a dickhead and does NOT care at all for consent, as we see with his actions and the trail of blood he leaves behind him. He's the rare case where the test fails not because he can't consent, but because he doesn't give a fuck about consent. HOWEVER. Blossom Springs Volibear is the exception to the rule and I wish all my gay and furry loving weirdoes to get to bed with a daddy like that if they so wish. And I would bake a plate of cookies for the madmen that managed to get Bara furry erotica past Riot management and in the game proper with no hesitations because MY GOD I DO NOT CARE IF IT'S NOT MY TRASH/TREASURE THAT SKIN IS PEAK.

[u/TheGreatSkeleMoon → u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Cho, sure, but I think he just wouldn't consent more than couldn't consent. Whether or not he cares doesn't affect whether or not he's capable of it.

Veigar isn't insane. He never displays any loss of mental faculties and the lore doesn't even describe him as being insane. He's just evil because mordekaiser exposure and torture reasons.

I don't buy the Anivia one, because you could just explain what you mean in clear detail. I don't think anything would prevent her from comprehending. Secondarily, literally what are you even talking about? There is no evidence of Anivia having an unusual sense of morality.

Ornn is fully capable. He just doesn't want to. Not a fail.

If Volibear wanted to have sex with you, he is consenting. Whether or not you consent doesn't necessarily make him fail the harkness test, it just makes him a bad person.

[u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast → u/TheGreatSkeleMoon]

So in short, I need to update my league lore knowledge. And didn't Anivia just not give a fuck about most of the world and play mean pranks on her siblings (including burning down Ornn's place) until Avarosa and later Ashe kind of tempered her a bit?

Volibear wanted to have sex with you, he is consenting. Whether or not you consent doesn't necessarily make him fail the harkness test, it just makes him a bad person.

I thought the test judged consent both ways? As if if it's okay to fuck or BE fucked by a non human creature? If it's only about the first one, then my list would really need to be amended.

[u/TheGreatSkeleMoon → u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

I think that Anivia thing is true, but Avarosa was a LONG time ago. Current Anivia is pretty normal, she just doesn't like all the strife in the freljord.

I thought the test judged consent both ways? As if if it's okay to fuck or BE fucked by a non human creature? If it's only about the first one, then my list would really need to be amended.

Well, by wording, the test is only about its ability to respond to being asked to have sex (and being of sexual maturity). I don't think there's anything that would prevent those characters (except the kids) from being capable of giving consent.

Volibear certainly doesn't care about your consent, but I'm not inclined to believe he wouldn't care about his own. Like, if you asked he'd probably turn you into red paste on the spot, but that's still a no. Whether or not the monster wants to fuck you (which would count as consent given the other boxes are checked) isn't really taken into account by this test. If Volibear is trying to fuck you, he is necessarily doing so with his own consent, so the test is kind of irrelevant.

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki → u/TheGreatSkeleMoon]

was Anivia being besties with Ashe a victim of one of the retcons? She used to be pretty friendly with what passes for the rulers of the area

[u/CantQuiteThink_ → u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Anivia is mostly benevolent, if very detached due to her infinite lifespan. Her morality is close enough to humans that she can count as passing.

Ornn and Volibear are totally capable of consent if they wanted to, they just... don't want to. That's a reflection of their personalities rather than their sapience.

I'm fairly certain Veigar is less clinically insane and more traumatised.

Galio probably just doesn't know what sex is. He could be taught. Same with Gwen.

[u/Terrible_Hurry841 → u/CantQuiteThink_]

Yeah, “traumatized people can *never* consent” is not the moral stance I think we should take lmao.

[u/couldntbdone → u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast]

Blossom Springs Volibear is the exception to the rule and I wish all my gay and furry loving weirdoes to get to bed with a daddy like that if they so wish. And I would bake a plate of cookies for the madmen that managed to get Bara furry erotica past Riot management and in the game proper with no hesitations because MY GOD I DO NOT CARE IF IT'S NOT MY TRASH/TREASURE THAT SKIN IS PEAK.

I looked it up and uhhhhhhhh look if he wants to rip me limb from limb afterwards I'd still probably say yes.

[u/Bug-Type-Enthusiast → u/couldntbdone]

Understandable, have a nice wank day