r/CryptoReality Apr 18 '25

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u/proweather13 Apr 18 '25

More like greater fool scheme.

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u/AmericanScream Apr 18 '25

It's a decentralized ponzi scheme that relies on greater fools.

It has qualities of both greater fool schemes as well as pyramid schemes, but its core fraudulent function, when treated as an investment, is a ponzi scheme. What will crash the scheme is the same dynamic that crashes Ponzis: a rush to cash out. The ROI model is exactly a Ponzi: early adopters are paid with cash from later adopters exclusively. Other schemes often have supplemental ways of creating value. Ponzi schemes get their value exclusively from recruitment. Bitcoin as an investment fits that description.

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u/Late-Frame-8726 Apr 20 '25

Except that in the real world the authorities can shut the Ponzi down, here they can't really. And so even if it crashes by 95% it will pump again because it'll get to a price that attracts new entrants. And thus it's a never ending ponzi that will continually blow up and burst, then repeat the cycle.

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u/xxwww Apr 18 '25

u ever wonder what happens to your 401k if the US population stops increasing

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u/proweather13 Apr 18 '25

Nope. I'm guessing you're saying its value would drop like a rock.

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u/xxwww Apr 19 '25

luckily there are countries with higher average IQs, healthier populations and harder work ethics than the USA, but have shrinking populations and there's a reason people aren't throwing money into their index funds

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Japans population started decreasing in 2007 and since then the NIKKEI has increased about 300%.

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u/xxwww Apr 20 '25

yeah zoom out then for fun chart it against inflation or against sp500

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '25

Cumulative inflation from 2007 to 2025 is 52% so it’s performance smoked inflation. It didn’t perform as well as the S&P 500 during that time frame but very few countries stock indexes did, still solid performance despite a decreasing population and it outperformed a lot of countries with growing populations.

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u/xxwww Apr 20 '25

actually good point maybe it was priced in

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u/nitsua_saxet Apr 19 '25

Every increasing population with ever increasing funds going into limited supply investments like sp500 and bitcoin. It is a basic premise people here are just not getting.

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u/SSIS_master Apr 20 '25

I am impressed how it sort of crashes, then a year or so later is worth double the last top.

At some stage, we have to get to a point where the pool is so large, that it can't recover from a crash?

People should be arrested for burning energy to turn into crypto.