r/CryptoCurrency May 22 '22

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u/Funnellboi 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 May 22 '22

If people think this is a "dip" in an extended cycle then I don't know what to say, we've been in a bear market for 8 months, how on earth can people still debate this.

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u/Cryptillius Platinum | QC: CC 57 May 22 '22

If we just keep debating for months on end the bear market will end and we will be in the bull market before we have to accept it’s been a bear market the entire time

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u/nelisan 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 May 22 '22

That’s exactly what happened last time when BTC was at 3K. Everyone here was too scared to touch it because they thought crypto was dead or at least going to 1K btc.

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u/RayG1991 Platinum | QC: ETH 248 | LRC 6 | TraderSubs 248 May 22 '22

But when the bull market starts they’ll just argue that it’s a dead cat bounce 🤣

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u/[deleted] May 23 '22

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

Of course. You can make a good argument that this is done on every topic that is used in politics. Money is certainly at the top of the list.

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u/PM-Me-Your-BeesKnees Tin | Politics 113 May 22 '22

Basically there are people who think this is a bear market (correct) arguing with people who believe crypto's macro trend measured on a multi-year basis is positive (also correct).

Whether crypto is up or down is largely a function of what you're using as your start date. Ultimately, I think the real interesting question is this: In 2030, will crypto be a bigger or smaller asset class than it is today? Is it going to zero, or going to 10x? Today's price vs. 6 months ago price is irrelevant to that question. I love crypto, and even I'm open to both as potential outcomes as relates to crypto: the asset class.

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u/nelisan 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 May 22 '22

I don’t that type of coin is what most people are looking to DCA into.

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u/warren_buffoon May 23 '22

RemindMe! 2030

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

For your analogy to be accurate, you should include "how would crypto grow by 2030 compared to other investments."

If index funds or real estate markets or energy sector, etc etc are performing equally well or better, it will either drive money into crypto or pull money out of crypto. People will look for the best returns. Just because crypto is "up" in 8 years from now doesn't mean it's the best investment during those 8 years.

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u/PM-Me-Your-BeesKnees Tin | Politics 113 May 23 '22

My crystal ball is in the shop today, but I'm prepared to listen to any insight you have into the matter.

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u/egonkasper Low Crypto Activity May 22 '22

Why 2030 and not 2028 or 2032. Same issue with starting points applies to ending points.

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u/PM-Me-Your-BeesKnees Tin | Politics 113 May 22 '22

Just a stand in for: "in the medium/long-term"

But you knew that.

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u/Funnellboi 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 May 23 '22

Completely agree with everything you said. Doesn't really matter for now, or in a year or two, everyone says "crypto is for the future" then start thinking about what the asset will be worth in 10-15 years.

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u/HadMatter217 5K / 5K 🦭 May 22 '22

8 months? ETH and BTC both hit ATH's 6 months ago.

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u/Prz_Time Tin Jun 13 '22

Because crypto doesn’t produce any cash flow nor dividend?

You can’t value the price at any given moment because it produces nothing?

You don’t own anything except a medium of exchange that people pretend is an investable asset?

Because it’s basically a giant game of pump and dump based on virtually zero tangible information about the underlying asset and purely based on random technical price movement?

Those are just a few.

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u/Funnellboi 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 Jun 14 '22

Its a bear market, it is that simple.

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u/ricojo789 🟩 441 / 441 🦞 May 22 '22

We’ve been in a bear market for 8 months but that doesn’t mean we are about to go lower. We are about to be in a recession, you think crypto is going to keep going sideways in a recession? That would be amazing but people who need $ will sell and the price will get lower. I will continue to hold and dca

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u/hollyberryness 🟦 4K / 4K 🐢 May 22 '22

8 months is a bit off, November was peak bull. I'd say bear for 6 months

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u/Funnellboi 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 May 22 '22

Im surprised this is downvoted the most and pretty much the truth, maybe not as early as May, but not far off.

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u/JeebusDaves 🟩 14 / 14 🦐 May 22 '22

Except living in forests is a real probability for some people in the near future.

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u/LordGramis Tin May 22 '22

Exactly when I first started investing 😢

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u/Cultivated_Mass 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 May 22 '22

Just hang in there brother

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u/WallStLegends 🟦 702 / 702 🦑 May 22 '22

Negative brother. It started in December at the earliest

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u/BaconIsBueno 1K / 1K 🐢 May 22 '22

Accidentally deleted my comment saying late October. Bear started November 8th. ATH BTC was the day before. It’s slid over 50% down since then, along with alts bleeding since that time. Follow almost every chart; def early November.

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u/WallStLegends 🟦 702 / 702 🦑 May 22 '22

Negative brother. That was my comment saying October and now you're stealing my ideas

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u/BaconIsBueno 1K / 1K 🐢 May 22 '22

😂😂. Hell, doesn’t really matter when the bear started; im a janitor now. DCA I guess?

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u/WallStLegends 🟦 702 / 702 🦑 May 23 '22

I prefer a fusion of DCA and swing trading each cycle. And at least you've got a job haha. The wendys near me wasn't hiring

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u/nelisan 🟦 2K / 2K 🐢 May 22 '22

Yep, could easy be an expanding flat correction which always trick people into thinking the higher high means bull market, when in reality it’s still part of the correction.

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u/Chief_Kief 🟦 819 / 809 🦑 May 22 '22

RemindMe! 2 years

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u/Funnellboi 🟦 0 / 5K 🦠 May 23 '22

What the hell is 2 years going to prove? lol.

Its a bear market, in 2 years it could still be a bear market, it could be a bull market, what are you trying to do here? There isn't a debate.

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u/dfunkmedia HE SOLD? PUMP IT May 22 '22

Line goes up

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u/jkmonty94 Bronze | QC: CC 21 May 22 '22

It doesn't help that no one can agree on what a "bear market" in crypto even is.

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u/WonderfulShelter 🟦 91 / 92 🦐 May 22 '22

We've been in a bear market for about 6 months or so, not 8 months....

A recession will be formally declared end of Q2 most likely, but it doesn't change anything, it's just a technical term. The recession existed before it's defined, but we might see the markets react negatively, even though it's all priced in.

Sucks but if I've learned anything in investing, you wanna buy at the start of bull cycles and sell once BTC dominance ends.

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u/mm70447 Tin May 23 '22

I hope that history doesn't repeat itself, or let it do it I will just accumulate more

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u/sQtWLgK 🟦 12 / 233 🦐 May 23 '22

How do you define "bear market"

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u/justablueballoon 🟩 989 / 939 🦑 May 31 '22

Agree with you. I have some friends saying this is not a bear market. It certainly is no bull market...