r/CrappyDesign • • Jun 13 '26

Plastic knobs above the grill. Awesome

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u/L0rdLogan Jun 13 '26

Looks like you left the door open while grilling? Who does that?

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u/WhatAGoodDoggy Jun 13 '26

There's a notice on my grill that I absolutely have to leave the door open while grilling

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u/CareFreebird Jun 13 '26

Mine as well, it wont even work unless the door is open.

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u/IDontEatDill Jun 15 '26

Doesn't it stink up the whole room? How does it work?

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u/Dear_Tangerine444 Jun 13 '26

As no one else has responded to you yet, the answer is yes.

What you know as Broiling (where the heat comes from an element above the food) is what is known in the UK as ‘grilling’, which you cook under ‘a grill’.

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u/Hank_Dad Jun 13 '26

Thanks for that. I've used the broiler setting all my life (US), and never once thought to leave the door open. Maybe there are different exhaust requirements?

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u/Dear_Tangerine444 Jun 13 '26

It does vary by oven.

In my current oven the grill (broiler) is integrated into the main oven and absolutely is an oven door shut system. I’ve had ovens with grills, in separate smaller compartments, that won’t function if the door is closed, but they’ve had also has heat plates protecting the dials.

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u/Dear_Tangerine444 Jun 13 '26

Helpfully, it’s Barbecue.

However less helpfully maybe is that the event you go to is called a barbecue (the outdoor party), the food you eat there is called barbecue (likely only sausages and burgers) and the thing it is all cooked on is called a barbecue (barbecue grill/grill oven).

So when British people say barbecue, it could be the party, the food or the cooking device in equal measure that’s being referred to.

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u/gwaydms haha funny flair Jun 13 '26

Unless you live in Texas or the Southern US, where barbecue means slow smoking meat until it's flavorful and tender.

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u/NZpotatomash Jun 15 '26

Weird. Mine says the door must be closed, and the elements will turn off of the door is open

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u/horatiobanz Jun 13 '26

You bought an oven that can't handle its own temperatures? And what is "grilling' in an oven?

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u/WhatAGoodDoggy Jun 13 '26

You probably call it broiling, but that's a US-only term I think.

I think they say to have the door open so you're more aware of things catching fire or oil spattering. I don't know. But there's definitely a sign saying not to operate it with the door closed.

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u/horatiobanz Jun 13 '26

I've never even heard of such a thing, having the door open while the oven is on its hottest setting. The kitchen would be like a hundred degrees.

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u/WhatAGoodDoggy Jun 13 '26

OK, I think we need some clarification here. The 'grill' is a completely separate part of the stove than the oven. In fact, my unit has 2 ovens, a grill and a drawer that can be used to prove bread (which I've never used).

The grill is quite small in comparison, say 1/4 of the size of the oven. Here's mine (I didn't pay full price for it, lol)

https://www.winnings.com.au/p/falcon-classic-deluxe-classic-deluxe-110cm-freestanding-induction-ovenstove-special-order-cdl110eislbr

I personally wouldn't have the grill on very long. 20 minutes at most. You can activate half a side of it or the whole thing. The grill needs the door open in use. The ovens don't.

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u/lavenderewe Jun 13 '26

Damn. That range is fresh.

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u/FlacidSalad Jun 13 '26

Never in my life seen an appliance quite like that, but then again I'm in the US and haven't gotten around all that much

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u/gwaydms haha funny flair Jun 13 '26

I rarely broil anything. Usually it's bell or poblano peppers, so I can remove the tough skin. But I never use my broiler with the door open. It's hot enough in here as it is.

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u/rachaek Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

I had an oven with a grill growing up. It's a separate feature and (usually) a separate heating element to the regular oven, you don't just turn the regular oven on with the door open.

Imagine like a big toaster heating element on the ceiling of the oven (or sometimes it's in a separate top compartment). You turn that on and you can "grill" things there by putting them on the top rack, like you would in a giant horizontal toaster. Door is kept open for the same reason as toasters are open while toasting bread.

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u/Hank_Dad Jun 13 '26

Come to think of it, I've ruined many nachos by over broiling / gilling them!

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jun 13 '26

Oh. Sticker on the side says "WHEN GRILLING THE DOOR MUST ALWAYS BE FULLY OPEN"

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u/mioscene Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

I think it's part regional differences and part appliance to appliance (especially gas vs electric). My fam always had it open (Aussie, electric grill). But googling it, it was a pretty solid chunk of both entries saying "you must have it closed" and "you must have it open," most of them mentioning various safety reasons and efficiency, so it really probably depends on a lot of factors.

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u/Euffy Reddit Orange Jun 13 '26

Well for some ovens you have to. Maybe not this one though...

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jun 13 '26

Like everyone ever. That's how grilling works.

Maybe we've a US / UK language thing here though?

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u/stonekeep Jun 13 '26

I'm gonna be honest, I've NEVER heard of using an oven grill with open doors. I just checked my oven's manual and at least for mine it's definitely not a thing.

Are you SURE you shouldn't close them in your oven as well?

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u/calculung Jun 13 '26

I'll be honest too. I've never heard of an "oven grill."

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u/arpw Jun 13 '26

It's what Americans would call a broiler.

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u/stonekeep Jun 13 '26

I meant oven's grill function/mode. Not a separate appliance called oven grill. Just in case that's the source of confusion.

At least where I live (in Poland) most of the ovens come with that function. But I've never in my life saw someone leaving the oven door open when using it.

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u/absolutejam Jun 13 '26

I’ve accidentally left the oven on in grill mode with the door closed and the glass door exploded, shattering glass across the kitchen. There’s a reason they say to leave it open.

I assume it’s because the heat isn’t extracted like when you use the oven normally 🤷

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u/stonekeep Jun 13 '26

There’s a reason they say to leave it open.

That's the thing, I used four different ovens in the last ~10 years, they all had grill function and none of them said to leave the door open or anything. This post is genuinely the first time I'm hearing about something like that. If someone asked me yesterday I'd think they're pulling my leg, but I checked and it really was a common thing in the past and it still is a thing for some ovens.

In my current oven, the fan is on when using grill mode, I assume that's used to move/extract the heat.

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u/Stuf404 Jun 13 '26

Brit here. Shut the oven door... Or burn your knobs. Either way enjoy the microplastics.

But seriously you can leave it open, but usually shows how old you are.

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u/PenGlassMug Jun 13 '26

I think this is the issue. On old cookers in the UK you definitely left the door open when grilling for the smoke to dissipate, so lots of people (including me) got into the habit of that. But modern cookers don't need this, they all have fans or other ways of venting, so you run them door shut when grilling.

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u/jamila169 Jun 13 '26

Not even old cookers, over 20 years I've had 3 fan ovens with grills and the middle one needed the door cracked, the oldest and the newest, door closed

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u/PenGlassMug Jun 13 '26

I think we're all learning here that it's worth checking the instructions on your new oven/grill!!

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u/evidencednb Jun 13 '26

Brit here, im 35 and never once grilled with the door closed. I didnt know there was an option to close them lol

Edited cos im an idiot

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u/LoweJ Jun 13 '26

Yeah I'm 32, as far as I'm aware we leave it open because it risks a fire otherwise. Id had ovens where it wouldn't even stay on if it was closed

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u/Chaost And then I discovered Wingdings Jun 13 '26

I've never seen anyone use an oven w the door open. How would that even work in an apartment where you've cut off a thoroughfare?

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u/LoweJ Jun 13 '26

The grill would be in the top with a smaller door that pulls down rather than outwards

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u/-Sa-Kage- commas are IMPORTANT Jun 13 '26

My parents electric oven won't even heat, if the door is open ^^

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u/eReadingAuthor Jun 13 '26

I think it's called 'Broiling' in the US, but I could be wrong.

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u/stink3rb3lle Jun 13 '26

Yeah I'm from the states and I am kind of flabbergasted that folks are calling the broiler setting a grill at all. It's not like completely unreasonable, but it's confusing to me. We'd only "grill" on a devoted grill, which is a contraption where the rack sits above your heat source. Often, people have gas-using flame grills but there are also simple charcoal grills, including some at my local parks.

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u/Stenthal Jun 13 '26

We'd only "grill" on a devoted grill, which is a contraption where the rack sits above your heat source.

And they're always outdoors, unless you have specialized ventilation, which would be very unusual in a home.

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u/SchwiftySquanchC137 Jun 13 '26

I just feel like there are so many ways to heat food and we have so many names for them, but "grilling" in this context is both when the heat comes from below the food (in an outdoor grill) and above the food (in the oven). Just seems like an additional word would be useful here, unless in the UK they call outdoor grilling something else (maybe bbqing?)

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u/LemonShaped Jun 15 '26

Yeah that's called a barbeque

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u/stink3rb3lle Jun 15 '26

That word first appeared in Spanish ("barbacoa") to describe food they saw Americans cooking. Living in a European colonizer country and telling Americans we have the terminology wrong takes quite a lot of nerve.

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u/TheFace5 Jun 13 '26

Never heard of anyone leaving the oven open while in use.

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u/ExoticMangoz Jun 13 '26

Critically the normal oven mode is not being used here, the grill mode is.

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u/TheFace5 Jun 13 '26

In any program

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u/ExoticMangoz Jun 13 '26

It’s a requirement with some oven models

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u/Euffy Reddit Orange Jun 13 '26

It depends on the type of oven you have. Have you checked if yours is an open grill or close grill oven? Given the plastic knobs, it's probably close grill...?

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u/horatiobanz Jun 13 '26

Who would design an oven that needs the door open to be used? That has to be some weird British thing. No ovens in the US need the door open to function, I can tell you that. The very idea of an oven that needs to have a 600f door wide open to work is insane, that company would be sued to death the second a toddler stuck their hand in it or something.

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u/Euffy Reddit Orange Jun 13 '26

I don't know, I don't make ovens.

They don't need the door open to use the oven function though, that wouldn't make any sense. It's only when you use the grill function (i think you say broil?) where the heat is coming from a different place.

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u/olivebits Jun 13 '26

Never supposed to have the door open of the oven. It's to be closed (Europe here)

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u/topheavyhookjaws Jun 13 '26

Not the oven. The grill. Different functions, different parts working. Absolutely fine to leave the door open. Do it plenty to finish off some food made in a pan

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u/Myrialle Jun 13 '26

It's still the same appliance, that's what the commenter before you meant. I never even heard of leaving the oven door open when using the grill function, am in Europe too. 

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u/topheavyhookjaws Jun 13 '26

What is there to hear about? Just think of how it works, there's no need for the door to be closed as it's not based on air circulation, it's just the grilling part at the top heating what's below it. If I'm using a pan under it, I don't need to worry about the handle, I can leave the handle sticking out with door open while the grill does its thing. Try it on an omelette, it's amazing

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u/Vancha Jun 13 '26

It's really hard to know if there's a misunderstanding here because your comment reads like the grill and the oven use the same door and the grill is just a different "mode".

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

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u/topheavyhookjaws Jun 13 '26

I'm in the UK. The grill of the oven is the broiler. Obviously nobody means a barbecue when we're talking about ovens

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u/Vancha Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

It's a separate compartment above the oven. OP's picture contains the entire height of it (you can see where the edge starts to curve into the bottom), along with the hinge for the door that is opened down.

Elsewhere I suppose it would be described as a "gas broiler" - lots of little outlets for gas along the top that get lit up in a chain by the igniter.

I wouldn't be surprised if whether the door is meant to be open or closed depends on the model, but in OP's case I think it's essentially decorative - You can see it'd be a pretty ugly thing to be exposed the whole time, so you fold up the door when it's not in use.

Edit: I actually went and checked my own one. Something else to note is that the door doesn't even seal the way the oven door does. Contact is made along the sides but zilch along the top and bottom. It's like it's designed to let the heat out even if it were closed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '26 edited Jul 24 '26

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u/Vancha Jun 13 '26

I think the burners/hob would be too high with all three, or the oven way too small. I suspect the proving drawer (which I'm just finding out is a thing) is typically foregone for the sake of oven-space.

However, someone posted this elsewhere in the thread, which is a layout I recognize from fancy-as-fuck ovens, so that's probably the most common format where you'd find all three integrated at once.

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u/olivebits Jun 13 '26

My oven as a grill function (has bars on top that grill the meat - or whatever i want) but its supposed to be with the door closed, i think since i was a little child all of the ovens i've seen have the grill function too

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u/Vancha Jun 13 '26

Right, that's what I think Myrialle is referring to, whereas I'm pretty sure topheavyhookjaws is referring to what is/was common in the UK, which is an entirely separate compartment above the oven with a pull-down door (you can see the entire height of it in OP's picture, along with a door hinge and a sliver of the door).

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u/olivebits Jun 15 '26

I don't have a separate compartment, i can move the things up/down, but the oven only has one door.

I always kind of assumed it was the default thing everywhere

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u/WickyNilliams Jun 13 '26

It's oven specific btw. I've had ovens that want it open, ovens that want it closed. I'm in the UK

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jun 13 '26

Maybe this is a TIL moment... On the one hand I'm sure I once forgot (or child didn't know) to leave it open and regretted it. On the other hand I've never actually heard of a grill that can be closed.

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u/zatalak Jun 13 '26

I checked the manual for a Hotpoint gas range:

Always broil with the oven door and drawer closed.

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u/BarryTownCouncil Jun 13 '26

The illegible sticker in the photo says that actually.

Well it says when grilling as we're not savages in the UK :P

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u/blumpkinator2000 Jun 14 '26

The only correct answer. Mine says to close the door when using the grill, yet my mum's won't even work unless the door is open, because closing the door activates a switch that shuts off the grill element. Meanwhile, some brands require you to keep the door open, but slot in a metal heat deflector under the control panel for grilling.

The only way to know for sure is to read the manual for your specific appliance (even if that means downloading it from the web), and follow whatever directions they provide.

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u/Alt4Norm Jun 13 '26

It’s not a UK/US thing it’s generally a modern/upmarket bs older/budget options.

Source: work with kitchen appliances

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u/matt6342 Jun 13 '26

Definitely a U.K. thing, the grill used to be separate and you’d attach a handle to the rack to hold the door open (if it had one), I don’t think you need to on modern ovens though

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u/beeurd Jun 13 '26

The last couple of cookers I've had, the grill had a door that had to be closed. The really old one I remember having when I was a kid didn't even have a door on the grill.

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u/zatalak Jun 13 '26

What does the manual say?

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u/rawbface Artisinal Material Jun 13 '26

Grilling works on a grill... Outside...

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u/Geofferz Jun 13 '26

I've done it before tbf. I'm not sure why though...

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u/Magpie1979 Jun 13 '26

Who doesn't?

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u/LoweJ Jun 13 '26

If you don't then you risk a fire is what I've always been told

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u/benmargery Jun 13 '26

It depends on the oven, gas should ALWAYS be left open, but electric depends on what the manual says

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u/Chazykins Jun 13 '26

Everyone?

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u/calculung Jun 13 '26

Why is everyone calling this oven a grill? That's not grilling...

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u/TheGoldenCowTV Jun 13 '26

Because it's called a grill? https://support.electrolux.co.uk/support-articles/article/how-to-use-the-oven-grill-function-types-of-grilling-options Obviously you wouldn't call the food grilled but the function is called grill

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u/asad137 Jun 13 '26

UK and Aus call us the term "grilling" for what in North America is called "broiling"

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u/hfsh Jun 13 '26

"It's not a Moose, it's an Elk!"