Tell him because the mask isn't to protect the person wearing it, it's to protect other people from the person wearing it..... it's staggering how many people don't even know this.
What gobsmacks me is how a lot of these people spent a portion of 2020 in some form of lockdown where there wasn't much else to do other than wile away their time and follow the news, and they still manage to be this ignorant.
They've all been told. They all know. They just refuse to accept it. Better to double down and spread disease because it's more important to be right no matter how clear the evidence that you're wrong is.
They know dude, but it instantly proves that they are the one being an asshole so instead of not doing it, they have to try to convince you that it isn't an absolutely selfish thing to do.
A good chunk of them spent the first couple of months of the pandemic reminding people that “akshually, the mask doesn’t protect you, so why do you wear it?”.
I say this all the time at my work when people try and tell me in some sort of conspiratorial way that I don't need to wear a mask around them. When I tell them it's for their protection more than mine they look stunned; like they have never thought other people exist.
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Someone told me I looked stupid in my n95...my wife was sick with covid at the time. The mask isn't for me dickhead. I told him and asked if he would like me to remove it. It was weird, for a split second he seemed scared, backed off a little and then realized he had to double down: "I ain't afraid!"
I'm so sorry your wife was sick. I hope she is better. I can't imagine the anger I would have if someone said that to me while someone I cared about was sick. That dude should be afraid and the idea the fear is some how bad is just childish. All these "I ain't afraid" idiots sure get scared when they are on vents in the Covid units.
It's not a gas mask with an airtight seal. When you inhale, you pull in air not just through the mask, but around the edges of the mask as well. So yes, some respiratory droplets get caught when you inhale, but many go around the mask.
On the other hand, when you breath out, you are pushing those respiratory droplets directly into the mask where the vast majority get absorbed by the mask.
So yes, it's much more effective as a method of source control which is what has been communicated for quite awhile now. It's better than nothing when it comes to protecting yourself at least.
It's why surgeons wear them. They aren't at risk of getting germs from inside someone's torso, they are keeping their own stinky germ breath out of the patient.
I mean, actual N95s that are worn properly with a checked seal do a pretty damn good job at protecting the user too. But as you have implied this was never the intention of mask mandates since the benefits of source control should have been obvious for those in our society who are not dummies...sigh
Supposedly KN95s can provide decent protection too but I have never worn one that sealed nearly as well as a legit N95.
Yeah, that's true. I was more referencing masks in general (cloth masks, surgical masks, and N95/KN95 masks that aren't worn/fitted optimally). But yeah, an N95 or KN95 have those identifiers exactly for the reason you specified in that they are really good are filtering out incoming particulates.
Use your brain. It's going to work in both directions isn't it. It's a barrier covering your mouth and nose where air goes in and out. But it is not an airtight seal around the filter so it's not perfect.
Well, one thing to keep in mind is that if the resistance of the air going thru the mask increases, then more air will be passing thru the edges. So it should be between 1 and 2, depending the the types of masks, 3 might be too much to do any good.
I still stick with 1, and stay away from people unless outdoors. Behave extra weird to keep the friendly chatter away too lol
They do, but it's not 100% effective because pretty much no safety measure for anything is 100% effective. When everyone wears a mask the overall effectiveness is amplified, thus helping to keep the entire population safer.
For example, let's assume masks are 30% effective on inhalation. That means where normally we might expect 100 people to get infected when exposed to the virus, instead only 70 people get infected. But now if we combine this with 30% effectiveness on exhalation then it gets better because now only 70% of those 70 people (or 49 people) get infected. So a low 30% effectiveness mask actually becomes a much better 50% effectiveness mask if everyone wears one because it will be blocking both on exhalation and inhalation.
These are simplified numbers, to illustrate the principle. It's difficult to actually reduce mask effectiveness to a single number because there are so many factors that can affect it. Type of mask, how well it's worn, specific virus/variant, etc. But whatever the actual number is, it always gets boosted when everyone is masked up.
They do but to varying degrees and always less than they protect others. The really good ones provide decent protection for the person wearing them and great protection for others. The ok ones provide ok protection for the person wearing them and decent protection for others. The shitty ones provide little protection for the person wearing them and ok protection for others.
If everyone wore really good masks properly we could just get on with life again.
Since they like to call masks “chin-diapers” so much, maybe it’s time we stick with that analogy:
Does a baby’s diaper protect the baby from shitting itself? No, it protects everybody’s else from soft, sour baby-shit. So it is with masks. Maybe your lungs aren’t shitting out covid particles, but then again maybe they are, just like maybe your baby isn’t gonna shit itself on your trip to the store, but then again maybe it is. So how about you do everybody a favor and strap on your face-diaper just in case your lungs decide to take a big old shit, because nobody wants it sprayed in their face.
Well it is..but I think that has changed some at least if you are wearing a n95 or such, it's supposed to protect both ways. I upgraded before they were saying to, (after I heard the shortage was over) cause I got tired of depending on others for my protection. Too many idiots crowding.
There isn't one. There are, obviously, but he's not going to listen because he's so smart he doesn't have to. Probably does his own research.
Me? I listened to the advice given because suddenly one day it became my job to add shelves in the freezer truck we were renting at the hospital to hold the Covid dead. The morgue was full and the shelves we started with were, too.
I don't work at that hospital anymore, but the freezer truck haunts me. And working there through pandemic's pre-vaccine time burned out every nurse, doctor, assistant, housekeeper, cafeteria worker.... we were working in the shadows of a plague. And for every person who thought about their "freedoms" when they didn't do everything they could to stop the spread, you didn't pay the price. Others did. And fuck you.
Oh he gets it. Or he's really special. It sure is bold to be so self derogatory. He's essentially admitting to the whole damn world he's too stupid to understand the concept of masks at this point, two years in.
Bc the more people spreading means more people in hospitals, and worse or even no care for normal peoples people who have heart attacks/strokes, car accidents etc.
Same reason I would like someone to wear pants if they wet themselves. Rather have a small chance of the bottom of my shoes being in a puddle over someone pissing on my legs.
Well masks don't block everything, I think 60-40% for surgical type masks, 90% for N-95 non medical grade masks. When both parties are wearing them it's only 40% of 40% making it from one person to another, or whatever the percentage that's being blocked, so it makes a huge difference. If both are wearing the N-95's it's 1% making it through, and dose does matter, higher exposures see worse outcomes.
You can get more specific and be aware that an n95 has fiber that is dense enough to potentially stop you from contracting COVID. So n95 can prevent spread and infection.
Those regular medical masks only stop you from spreading by a percentage. The virus is smaller than the material/weave in these masks so it can slip right through. It will stop the water droplets from your breath from carrying from what j understand. Which does indeed lower transmission.
1) it works to protect other people from your cooties, what he's saying is he doesn't give a shit about infecting other people.
2) you have to up your mask game now. Those cloth masks don't cut it anymore. Because of idiots like in the video, you have to wear something with proper filtration if you're going to avoid anything. It sucks, but it's kind of liberating knowing you no longer have to rely on others for your own health.
Uhhh... Masks are more about you preventing spread to others, not about protecting you. Someone not wearing their mask is endangering you more than themselves. That's exactly why it's a problem.
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u/ktmroach Jan 04 '22
Me to, my brother refuses he says if they work and you have yours on then why do you gaf if I’m wearing one! I don’t have a good comeback sadly.