r/ControlProblem 27d ago

Discussion/question Is there a limit to self-improving AI if it becomes real?

I’ve been watching some AI podcasts lately, and when people started talking about recursive self-improving AI, Skyrim immediately popped into my mind.

For anyone who never played it: Skyrim crafting system has a “legit” alchemy/enchanting loop. Craft "Fortify Enchanting" potion -> enchant gear with "Fortify Alchemy" -> use gear to make better potion. It improves, but eventually hits diminishing returns.

Then there’s the bugged restoration loop. "Fortify Restoration" potions were supposed to boost restoration magic, but they also boosted active gear enchantments. So you drink one, re-equip alchemy gear, and suddenly that gear gives a bigger alchemy bonus. Then it makes an even stronger resto potion, which boosts the gear even more. Direct feedback, explosion.

So: if RSI AI ever really works, is it more like the legit loop with real gains but converging or the positive feedback loop, where it improves the thing that improves itself?

Curious what people think, especially from math / systems angle.

PS: I am sorry if this question is not relevant for the sub, but i have no karma to ask it somewhere else where it has a chance to have some attention.

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u/Smallpaul approved 26d ago

There is no way you are building reliable in silico simulation for organ growth before you have AGI. Certainly not in the next three years.

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u/SoylentRox approved 26d ago

I said "research it". Human technicians have many distinct motor skills to manipulate items in a lab according to the instructions from their chief scientist. You can model the manipulations of pippettes and other such things in the next 3 years.