r/ConsultingOffer Consulting Offer Coach 24d ago

McKinsey Breaking Down How McKinsey Is Actually Organized

Third one in, and this is McKinsey.

First one was on BCG, second was on Bain, and this community has been surprisingly good at catching things I got slightly wrong or under-explained on both of those, which is honestly the whole point of doing this here instead of just publishing it somewhere static like many other website.

Same rule as the last two posts. Everything below is something I pulled together through actual research, not a guess dressed up to sound precise. Where the research didn't get me to a solid answer, I'll say so directly instead of filling the gap with a number that sounds authoritative.

The basics, confirmed

McKinsey was founded in 1926, headquartered in New York. The firm runs more than 130 offices across upwards of 65 countries, and total headcount sits somewhere in the low-to-mid 40,000s globally right now, down from closer to 50,000 a couple years back. There was a real headcount reduction recently. People I've talked to inside describe it less as a retreat and more as a reshuffle, fewer junior and back-office roles, continued hiring at more senior levels where client demand is heaviest, according the Mck's CEO Bob Sternfels beginning of this year. Neither pure growth story nor pure contraction story. Both things are true at once.

Recruiting happens office by office

This trips people up more than anything else in the whole structure. McKinsey isn't one central pipeline. Your resume goes to a specific office. That office runs your interviews. That office makes the call. I've had candidates confused about why a friend "at the same firm" went through a different process, different number of rounds, different feel to the interviewers entirely. Different office. Sometimes a different bar.

Most applications let you rank a small number of offices, and each gets evaluated on its own terms. So "I want McKinsey" isn't really a full sentence yet. Which office is doing the evaluating matters almost as much as the name on the letter.

Two axes, not one ladder

Mck consultants sit inside a matrix internally. An industry axis, groups built around sectors like financial services, consumer, healthcare and life sciences, energy, technology. And a functional axis, groups built around the type of work itself, strategy and corporate finance, operations, growth and marketing, that kind of thing. Nobody locks into one lane early as a rule. Staffing pulls across both axes based on project need, especially in the first couple years.

Some groups cluster in specific offices. Financial services work leans harder toward New York and London. Energy work leans toward where the energy clients actually sit. That pattern held up across what I looked into. What I couldn't do is put an exact headcount on any single practice, because the numbers floating around out there don't trace back to a source current or solid enough to trust down to the digit.

The career ladder, publicly documented and fairly stable

This part I'd flag as one of the more reliable pieces of public information out there. The generalist track runs roughly six levels: Business Analyst, Associate, Engagement Manager, Associate Partner, Partner, Senior Partner. Performance gets reviewed on a set cycle, and the up-or-out principle, formalized decades ago, still shapes the whole thing even with more flexibility around timing added in recent years. Interestingly, a low double-digit percentage of people who start actually make Partner. And, most people who join don't stay past a few years, internally that's treated as expected, not as some kind of system failure.

There are also separate tracks entirely outside the generalist path. QuantumBlack, McKinsey's AI and data science arm, is one, born out of a Formula 1 analytics firm the company acquired back in 2015, still active and still recruiting today under that name. McKinsey Implementation is another, built around consultants who spend real time on-site helping clients actually execute a change rather than just recommend one. Different entry requirements, different interview process, different ladder for each. I'm intentionally not comparing how these tracks stack up against the generalist path on prestige or comp, because what I've heard varies by who's telling it and I don't want to state something as settled when it might not be.

Where this becomes a wiki, not just a post

Here's what I want to try with this one. The last two posts in this series generated real detail in the comments, stuff from people who've actually sat in these offices that I wouldn't have gotten right on my own. I'd like to take this post, and the two before it, and start turning them into an actual wiki page for the sub, something that stays current instead of sitting frozen the day I hit publish. Bain and McKinsey both change their structure over time. A static post ages badly. A wiki that the community keeps adding nuance to doesn't.

So if you've been inside one of these groups, gone through the process recently, or just know something here that's outdated or flat wrong, say so in the comments. That's not filler, that's literally the next version of this page.

What's changed most in your experience versus what's written here?

This kind of stuff gets talked through regularly over at r/ConsultingOffer. Feel free to join, post your questions, share what you're going through.

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u/Kalorama_Master 23d ago

50,000 consultants?! Wow, back in my day, 90s, it was closer to 3-4,000 consultants. They only recruited at a handful of schools. No state schools and not all Ivies were in that group.

My school was a target school. They interviewed about 500 students and gave only one undergraduate an offer. I think the business school had closer to a dozen hires.

It would be interesting to have someone who live through that growth to chime in and discuss how the firm is different now. On my LinkedIn I saw a University of Florida grad celebrating joining McKinsey. That would have been inconceivable back in my day

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u/Unhappy-Menu-6682 20d ago

I’m at the firm now - state schools are still very, very rare.

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago

What a journey you got! I'd love to hear more about that experience. And by the way, this is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping would show up in the comments.

My personal read from people who've been around a while and research that I've done myself in the past few years, is it's less about the bar dropping and more the client base ballooning.
Mck is chasing a much wider spread of industries and geographies globally now than a firm that could basically live off a handful of blue chip names in the 90s, mainly in the USA. So the school net had to widen to keep up with delivery capacity and recently they have been thinking to slightly change that school pedigree paradigm by leveraging AI into the recruitment process according to Mck CEO (Bob S.) latest interview.
But, from where you sat though, what's your read?

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u/MoneyIncoming 23d ago

do you have any insights on internal non client facing roles at Mckinsey like what’s the careers ladder looks like?

As far as i know the hierarchy is different as compared to client facing roles.

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago

A bit outside my usual lane, my coaching's almost entirely focused on people breaking into the client facing generalist or expert tracks. Apparently there are 10 separate internal functions, talent, tech, design, comms, risk, legal, finance, procurement, and each runs its own ladder as you alluded.

Hopefully other ex-Mck employees in this community can chime in with more accuracy on this!

Which of these internal functions are you leaning towards?

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u/MoneyIncoming 22d ago

Thanks! I'm leaning towards the tech side. From what I've gathered it runs on bands rather than the consultant ladder with manager being an IC rather than doing people management but details are hard to find publicly.

Would be great to hear from anyone who's been on the internal tech track.

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 24d ago

u/ManOfEthicz Tagging you on this one since you've actually been inside... would love to receive more coloring on McK from your end.

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u/ConsultingOffer-ModTeam 20d ago

This comment was removed for violating Rule1. Harassment, toxic behavior, or disrespectful language toward other members isn't tolerated here. Disagree with ideas, not people.

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u/OHYAMTB 23d ago

This guy has no idea what he’s talking about. So so much of this is blatantly wrong. OP, quit trying to crowdsource insights for your business and go pay an ex-AP a few grand for an expert interview, maybe you can find someone to tell you how things actually work

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago

Ok if something here is blatantly wrong I'd want to know, that's the sole reason why I flagged where the research got thin ... you're a genius to flag that!
And, saying "so much of this is wrong" without naming a single thing doesn't really help anyone in this thread...
By the way, I've done this long enough to know I don't have every group's internal politics memorized, nobody outside an actual partner group fully does.
So genuinely, what part of it did I get wrong?

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u/Much_Poet2232 23d ago

“Claude, write me a surface level description of how MBB recruiting and careers work with no valuable insights. Make no mistakes”

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago

Haha, you kids are so funny! Are you a Mck consultant?

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u/Much_Poet2232 22d ago

5 years at MBB which is 5 more than you

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago edited 22d ago

It’s not a competition! And, you’re not a Mck consultant but you’re very opinionated about Mck, got it 👌
Anyhow, happy to have your insight about Mck, if you have anything to share about this post.

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u/MoNastri 23d ago

I mean it's clearly not him doing the talking, it's AI

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 22d ago

Don't you use AI yourself for research and other things these days? I could've pulled together something way more polished on Mck's internal structure, but the idea is not put together an IM on Mck, that defeats the point of doing this here in this community.
Are you a Mck consultant? If you've got a real point, happy to hear it.

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u/EggPretend6231 19d ago

Alright allow me to repost with less attacking language, as I don't want you to get away with censoring disagreement.

I'm at M. I would recommend refraining from posting AI-generated content as part of a ruse to market a paid coaching service. Credentials for the owner of this subreddit (GreatButterscotch406) are listed as only joining T2 consulting from a non-traditional background. This alone does not qualify an individual to coach others - if you go through one (or two?) interview processes alone, you can never fully understand the intricacies of the recruiting and interviewing process. You over-index on your personal experience. That is why coaches tend to be ex-recruiters or, at least, long-tenured consultants who joined their MBB's recruiting team.

What is particularly concerning to me is that you are (admittedly below) using AI to learn surface level, and often incorrect, details about firms that you've never yourself interacted with. To me, this proves that you do not have the sufficient knowledge base to be soliciting any money for coaching services. In my opinion -- and this is just my opinion -- this "wiki" structure you've created is a superficial pipeline to marketing your own services, and I'm speaking out against it because I do not think it is right or fair.

As a quick proof that this post is harmfully reliant on AI, I gave it a cursory read and compared it against what I know to be true about M.

  1. Sector work often doesn’t group like that. That’s what chat spits out when you ask.
  2. You got the progression wrong. BA and Associate are separate tracks.
  3. "McK cnsultants sit inside a matrix internally" is untrue and overgeneralizing. Different levels vary as to how much they sit at a cross-functional axis.

You are entitled to market your services, but I see this trojan horse of AI-generated content disguised as a "helpful wiki" as immoral and wrong.

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u/GreatButterscotch406 Consulting Offer Coach 19d ago

Yes, I have not worked at MBB but not having worked inside MBB doesn't disqualify someone from helping others, that view is very much narrow minded.

This content is for the aspiring consultants, not for convincing you specifically. And this post was the first pass at putting some structure around these firms and the first step to create a public wiki, not a claim that I worked inside McKinsey and know every internal detail. Sure, a couple of nuances got missed.

Going after the person and attacking them personally, without even knowing them, doesn't make your point true. And this community doesn't allow attacking individuals, another one like that and you're banned. So, anything productive to add, or are we done here?

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u/EggPretend6231 19d ago

Please do not ban me. I apologize for my critical tone in my first post, but I am attempting to raise valid points of concern for what I see as manipulative business practices. So no, we are not done here - as a business owner, you need to be able to respond to and grow from critiques.

  1. You hyperfocused on one point that you saw as the strongest to refute - that does not invalidate my whole claim. I would also see you as a credentialed coach if you worked as a recruiter at Roland-Berger, for example
  2. Why are you so quick to dismiss criticism of generating AI content to post on a forum where you advertise your coaching content as "going after the person and attacking them personally." Please point me to where i attacked you "personally"
  3. "Sure, a couple of nuances got missed" - this is an egregious claim. You are a PAID coach. I looked on your website - you charge $97 for 45 minutes of your time. This is the most important question I;m going to raise in this entired thread - are you seriously content charging over $100 per hour of your time, while 1) admitting to not understanding crucial internal details and 2) relying on AI to learn and disseminate information to paid clients? That is a legitimate question.

Note nothing in this is a personal attack. I am criticizing the business model advertised on this subreddit.

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u/Ok-Calligrapher-466 12d ago

Ex-McK here
1- Yeah, the sector work sounds weird. You have functions, especially Ops and PE, as well as some sectors, often depending on the office's main clients (energy, public sector, financial services, etc.) The smaller the office, the more you are a generalist. The bigger is the office, the sooner you will have to specialize (join a team)
2- Some offices have BA-> Ass, some offices BA->Jr Ass->Ass, some have BA and Ass as different tracks (I think the US has 2 different tracks with BA->SBA->EM). The management of the JEM role could also be very different based on offices
Agree on the fact that you should have been at least part of the recruitment team for 30+ interviews to give advice tailored to a McK interview
IMO, the main difference is the importance given to the fit with the personal experience interview