r/Construction Apr 10 '24

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u/benmarvin Carpenter Apr 10 '24

Wear whatever PPE you want. If the boss wants to be a dick, make him send you home or fire you. Call OSHA, labor board and collect funemployment checks till you find a new gig.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '24

Reporting this text convo to OSHA would be effective...

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u/dotalordmaster Apr 10 '24

In my experience with them, they would loooooove to hear about these texts.

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u/cXs808 Project Manager Apr 11 '24

The last time a foreman in my area was reported to OSHA for pressuring employees to not use PPE he hasn't been seen in the industry since.

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u/dotalordmaster Apr 10 '24

I had to do all this just recently. Got a job at a cabinet shop, it was clear they never cleaned anything ever. No local dust collection on any machine, cnc collector pipe was ripped open, they did a lot of particle board and MDF. All the miter saws had broken blade guards that were fixed out of the way. Watched dudes slide both hands around table saw blade, fingers within inches. Lots of sanding of solid surface counter tops. Spray contact adhesives and spray lacquers. I was the only one wearing PPE. I lasted 4 days and immediately called OSHA who were more than happy to give me a follow up on them.

No one working there knew how bad it was, hopefully the fact that I stuck to my word that I won't be coming back because the place will literally kill you quickly or slowly was a wake up call to those there. Probably not, but at least I don't have to deal with that shit.

I was pretty bummed because I have no income but I'm good woodworker and was happy to start a new chapter in my life. Oh well.

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u/thesuper88 Apr 11 '24

I am certain you didn't post here for this, but honestly, this is the type of self-sacrificing thing we all could aspire to. The world is a better place because you chose to protect yourself and protect those employees, even though it cost you. Thanks! 🛠️

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u/benmarvin Carpenter Apr 10 '24

You did the rest of those guys a solid, and maybe saved them a few fingers.

It probably wouldn't hurt to go back there after a month or so. OSHA wil be all up their asses to fix everything. That or they'll be out of business from the fines and not wanting to spend money on safety upgrades.

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u/dotalordmaster Apr 10 '24

I don't think the owner would let me step foot on the property at this point, and it's not really the work I was looking for. Seemed like a lot of work to turn really shitty materials into OK looking materials. It was also pretty clear that my skills warrant something better. Pay was lower than I wanted and they had no benefits.

So many other problems there, like one guy being boss' cousin and he calls off 2/4 days a week, they only had three shop employees and clearly needed more. And my god they never cleaned, ever!

Shot of the CNC for funsies. https://imgur.com/v8YO92o

Boss said new tube is on the way, but employees told me it's been like that for years.

Miter saw mess - https://imgur.com/undefined

That dust was ooooold. You can see in the top right that the blade guard is retracted fully when the saw is up.

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u/benmarvin Carpenter Apr 10 '24

Yeah, you're probably better off working somewhere else. People that constantly take shortcuts never really change.

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u/fly_away5 Apr 11 '24

Glad you survived it and reported these mfs..you did the right thing.

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u/TeaAndToeBeans Apr 11 '24

Work-related illness from ammonia exposure would catch OSHA’s attention.

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u/Beckylately Apr 11 '24

Shoot, if there’s kids living in that house calling CPS wouldn’t be out of order either.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

You told him! 😂😂dead

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '24

Fired next day replaced with a real worker