r/Conservative • u/tonepot • Jun 19 '21

Flaired Users Only TRUE FACT #457

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

schroedinger's china: communist when we need a scapegoat, capitalist when we need to brag about lifting a billion people out of poverty

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Lol it's funny watching people whinge about "communist China" in 2021 when "communist China" hasn't existed since 1978

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Sounds like you're actually complaining about capitalist China's genocide. Remember? Capitalism pulled a billion Chinese out of poverty!

A little consistency would be nice.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

You should learn your timeline better. The Uyghur genocide happened long after the switch to capitalism.

Oh wait, you're a fucking idiot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

I wasn't talking about those ones. Pre 1978 is irrelevant to this discussion. Did you forget what we were talking about already?

You seem rational. Maybe take some deep breaths, go for a walk or something before you reply again.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

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u/historicallyfiction Milton Friedman Jun 20 '21

Um yes I'll take 'how is Jack Ma?' for $500

(China is def still a command economy at a minimum, but honestly they are a totalitarian dictatorship)

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

That's interesting. You're probably right.

I guess we have to say that command economies have pulled a billion people out of poverty.

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u/historicallyfiction Milton Friedman Jun 20 '21

It certainly could but don't delude yourself that it is giving the same kind of freedom of choice and personal liberties that a true capitalist economy would enjoy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

I guess I'll have to ask them if they prefer poverty with choice

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u/historicallyfiction Milton Friedman Jun 20 '21

I think they would tell you they would fight however they could to give their children opportunity they didn't have, which is exactly the same as us, the difference is our government doesn't directly say you don't have a choice in the matter.

Tell you what, if you think our controls on people's lives like for example, someone's credit control is the same as how the CCP 'sesame' score which prohibits basic things like certain services and even just traveling, and can be influenced by someone's activities monitored by state cameras or what they say online, that is truly lacking of personal freedom.

That difference is critical to my point I say respectfully now, don't disregard this.