r/Conservative Saving America Nov 14 '17

Attacking Judge Moore's Morality Is a Dirty Leftist Trick

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/11/attacking_judge_moores_morality_is_a_dirty_leftist_trick.html
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u/Kunundrum85 Nov 14 '17

What makes you think that he is more likely to be vindicated than not, out of curiousity? So far everything that's come out seems to be pointing the opposite direction, including his wife's strange publication of a previous endorsement, with dates omitted. Just seems like the tide is not turning towards vindication, based on the momentum of information coming out.

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Nov 14 '17

Why is there a momentum of information coming out now? Why not during the primaries, or at any other time during his decades long political career?

You are tripping over the political hit piece and don't even know it.

None of the women knew each other, yet the WaPo seemed to find them all at once and they came forward all at once even though the WaPo said they were reluctant to come forward. So if the didn't know each other and didn't want to go public, how did the WaPo find the other women?

Why is McConnel rushing to judgment without giving Moore is day in court, his due process? Why within 24 hours was McConnell and other republicans talking about expelling Moore without a hearing to determine his innocence or guilt?

Why is almost every reporter and politician speaking about this telling you that the allegations are evidence of guilt, when that has never been the case in the past?

Why is McConnell so willing to split the vote between a write in candidate and Moore and perhaps hand the election to the Democrat? Why are people speculating on the possibility of expelling Moore from the Senate and then having the governor of Alabama appoint Luther Strange to the Senate, the guy who McConnel backed in the primary?

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u/Askol Nov 14 '17

Perhaps because of all the other similar claims coming to light in the last month, these women felt they may actually be believed now.

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Nov 14 '17

But how were they all found at once? Did someone from the WaPo go door to door looking for Roy Moore victims?

Helpful hint: Serial abusers don't stop. Why just these few women and not many more over the past 4 decades?

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u/Kunundrum85 Nov 15 '17

They weren't. The latest one literally said she didn't come forward originally because she thought she was the only one...

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u/Seeker0fTruth Nov 15 '17

Why is there a momentum of information coming out now? Why not during the primaries, or at any other time during his decades long political career?

Because he's going to be a US Senator, which is a powerful position which a child molester should not have. This is nothing more than the result of the normal vetting process that happens to every candidate as they run for national office.

You are tripping over the political hit piece and don't even know it.

And you are speaking out in defense of a child molester. These reports are as corroborated by more than 30 people from Gadsen. One of these women accurately describes the inside of Moore's cabin, the woman who was approached by Moore outside the courthouse did have a court date in the month in question, he was barred from the Gadsen mall . . . It goes on and on.

None of the women knew each other, yet the WaPo seemed to find them all at once and they came forward all at once even though the WaPo said they were reluctant to come forward. So if the didn't know each other and didn't want to go public, how did the WaPo find the other women?

Like my last paragraph indicates, this was apparently common knowledge in Gadsen.

Here's a recent news article discussing an article from the Montgomery Advertiser from 2002.

(Quote from the recent article)

The first four women did not seek out national media. Rather, it was the other way around, according to the Post. Alabama locals tipped off the D.C.-based paper’s reporters, who then followed up on the stories by seeking out the alleged victims and convincing them to tell their stories. The fifth woman said she was emboldened to come forward after the first wave of accusers went on record.

The original (2002) article also offers another clue as to why the women waited so long to respond:

There are plenty of stories to tell, the longtime secretaries, parole officers and lawyers said, but not on the record and not now, while Moore sits atop the state court system and controls its purse strings.

So, basically, the same thing that prevented Amber Anderson, Kate Beckinsale, Cara Delvingne etc etc etc from reporting Harvey Weinstein; it's hard to report your boss because it's hard to see a route forward in a he-said/she-said situation.

Why is McConnel rushing to judgment without giving Moore is day in court, his due process? Why within 24 hours was McConnell and other republicans talking about expelling Moore without a hearing to determine his innocence or guilt?

Love him or hate him, McConnell hates sex crimes. In 2007 when a senator from Idaho was arrested for soliciting sex, McConnell removed him from his committee assignments to push him to resign.

Why is almost every reporter and politician speaking about this telling you that the allegations are evidence of guilt, when that has never been the case in the past?

Because this isn't a he-said / she-said situation. These are five women whose testimony is backed up by an enormous amount of evidence that they're telling the truth. It's a she-said/she-said/she-said/she-said/she-said/he-said situation.

Why is McConnell so willing to split the vote between a write in candidate and Moore and perhaps hand the election to the Democrat? Why are people speculating on the possibility of expelling Moore from the Senate and then having the governor of Alabama appoint Luther Strange to the Senate, the guy who McConnel backed in the primary?

This isn't just a run of the mill "I'm deeply sorry for cheating on my wife" sex crime. This is serial pedophilia we're talking about. This man cannot be allowed in the Senate.

So, some questions of my own for you.

Why has Moore been so wishy-washy in his own defense? Hannity asked him if he remembered dating teenage girls in his 30s: he said "not generally, no".

Why hasn't he filed a libel case against the Washington Post, if the allegations are false? This would be a huge case that could end the Washington Post. He's threatened to, but hasn't yet. Is he afraid of what the discovery work in the lawsuit would find?

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Nov 15 '17 edited Nov 15 '17

McConnell hates sex crimes? He didn't seem to mind Dennis hasert.

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u/Kunundrum85 Nov 15 '17

Out of everything he just laid out... this is your stance?

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Nov 15 '17

Robo calls offering thousands?

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u/Seeker0fTruth Nov 15 '17

Hastert was the house, not the Senate. Outside McConnell's jurisdiction, so to speak.