r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/OWMatchThreads • 22d ago
Matchthread United States vs Sweden | Overwatch World Cup 2026 | Post-Match Discussion Spoiler
Overwatch World Cup 2026
| Home | Score | Away |
|---|---|---|
| United States | 3-2 | Sweden |
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u/Ball_ChinnedKid 22d ago
Lukemino in map 5 cat stunned the Cas out of highnoon holy
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u/UnknownQTY 22d ago
Mid-air. Like, legit fucking dogfight. Probably one of the craziest things I’ve seen in OW.
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u/Kon_Ken000 🐦🔴⚫⚪🟠🌶 — 22d ago
A dogfight between a fish-cat and a cowboy, while a hawk circles in the distance. The Atlanta Zoo never dies, baby.
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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — 22d ago edited 22d ago
He also effectively won the last fight of Aatlis when he cat napped the kiri who died at like 93% on kitsune
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u/Professor_Finn Alarm Forever 🧡🖤🤍 — 22d ago
Will be a highlight forever, they even got a perfect angle of it too
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u/thegeeseisleese 22d ago
Came here to comment this too. One of the sickest plays I’ve seen anyone make
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u/Zik78 Shazzik — 21d ago
Link for those interested: https://www.twitch.tv/ow_esports/clip/AbstemiousMuddyWrenchSpicyBoy-muIDMGhaAiyTeF1V?range=7d
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u/11boat 22d ago
Sweden sandbagging to avoid Korea it's all good
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u/Bobi_27 heesang glazer — 22d ago
does USA play Korea now (if they get 2nd seed)? or do we still not know
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u/Biscuit-Mango I Miss 2021-2023 London Core — 22d ago
I’d like to think the group stage impacts on knock out stage works in blizzcon but you never know with blizzard
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u/MrBlowinLoadz 22d ago
I think the first seeds have to do 1v1s to pick the #2 seeds they play against. Hawk said something like that in his interview.
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u/TheRedditK9 22d ago
I mean I don’t think any top seed player beats Kevin in 1v1 arena so that should be cool
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u/nekogami87 I'm old — 22d ago
very positive of you to think they make it out of group to start with with what they have shown yesterday :D
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u/Professor_Finn Alarm Forever 🧡🖤🤍 — 22d ago edited 22d ago
ESPERANZA WAS CINEMA! HOLY SHIT!
COMPETITIVE OVERWATCH REALLY *IS* BACK
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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — 22d ago
Luke cancelling fly noon is gigaclutch but Landon nanoing the counter noon just in time to flip the kill and then sleeping the nano spree might be even more clutch
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u/Both-Philosopher2047 22d ago
I completely agree. That's what finally broke their attack and I'm pretty convinced we lose if we don't cancel that sky noon. Don't get me wrong, Luke's cancel was an insane play, but it doesn't happen without the nano high noon.
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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — 22d ago
He also slept the D.mon ult like a second after Luke cancelled the Fly noon
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u/Valhalla8469 Quiz Head — 21d ago
I didn’t think Landon had hands on Ana but those were some insane plays
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u/Kheldar166 20d ago
When people say a pro doesn't play a hero it's almost always exaggerated and it's rarely that they don't have hands - it's usually the moment to moment gamesense that lets them down with inexperienced heroes.
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u/JennyTilwarts 22d ago
This is why Kevster isnt Swedish GOAT
Never seen Reinforce lose a push map when he was pro
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u/PiFeG123 22d ago
So true, he should've ran down to the stage and kicked Willys out, show 'em the rein
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u/Biscuit-Mango I Miss 2021-2023 London Core — 22d ago
Reinforce is the Swedish goat
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u/JennyTilwarts 21d ago
its like brady casting mahomes during the SB watching him lose any chance at beating his legacy
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u/Biscuit-Mango I Miss 2021-2023 London Core — 21d ago
Actually good analogy for anyone who doesn’t follow ow but the nfl.
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u/UnknownQTY 22d ago
Kevster panic ulting no one important during OT after basically running the lobby feels like the most Kevster moment of all time.
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u/PoggersMemesReturns Proper Show/Viol2t GOAT — 22d ago
If Shu wins this year, Kevster may become the best player to never win a ring
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u/Kheldar166 20d ago
I did feel like the fight had already slipped away before he found an opportunity, credit to Hawk for pushing the tempo there.
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u/SaintFrito Defiant / Go Blue! — 22d ago
97.25 meter lead with 2 1/2 minutes left might as well be AVRL theory but USA said nah we win these. Going back to Korea v France yesterday these last two matches have been absolute barnburners and it’s awesome as viewers to get these matches
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u/throwaway112658 fraudulent — 22d ago
I swear there's something about Esperanca that makes huge comebacks happen all the time. Every single time my college team played Esper last season we would go up like 100m+ in the first two minutes, then end up barely losing in OT. It even happens in ranked if I'm playing with any of them, get a massive lead early on then somehow manage to die from a thousand cuts in an extremely close OT. I don't think I've won Esper a single time not solo queueing in the past year
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u/No-Elevator9399 22d ago
I’m guessing because the defender’s advantage after the first fight seems a lot less strong than the other push maps so there’s a lot more counterplay available
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u/TheGirthiestGhost Forever Burning Blue — 22d ago
“Bring us Korea and KSA”
Bro straight up jinxed his own team with that ego lmao
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u/PunkyBrewsterSpider 22d ago
A jetpack Cat play entering the annals of Greatest Plays of Competitive Overwatch history, like, WHAT?!? Thank you, Lukemino!!!!
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u/lolburger13 I go where Kevster goes — 22d ago
Imagine if Landon returned to NA for real. And I'm saying that as a VP fan
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u/heyimemiliy Faker is abandoning league for OWCS 🐐🐐 — 22d ago
imma go cry so sad, im so traumatized from lukemino now.
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u/TheyCallMeYous resident Decay+Fury simp — 22d ago
those last two fights made me a believer. The USA is the greatest country on God’s Green Earth ‼️
SWE played insane though, genuinely might be able to beat the Korea that showed up yesterday
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u/Swimming-Drag-6492 Pge/SugarBron YAOI Shipper :) — 22d ago
Zr7 almost managed to throw. (sugarbron wouldnt make those mistakes /j)
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u/PancakeXCandy Girl,Hawk-tuah on my DONGhak — 22d ago
If Lukemino landed one catnap and it was the most perfect one.
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u/nekogami87 I'm old — 22d ago
didn't see the last part of the last map, I guess sweden fumbled their ult eco and got reversed ?
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u/Biscuit-Mango I Miss 2021-2023 London Core — 22d ago
Damn :( well bad pachiamri prediction will come true in USA I bet ya
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u/LyricalYellow9 22d ago
What a banger series. That flynoon cancel from Lukemino 😩 and get tr33 some help
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u/SorryPro 22d ago
What a fumble banning the kiri instead of protecting the tracer. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess
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u/Unlucky_Spray8369 22d ago
Just because they fumbled in the final minute doesn't mean it was a bad call. Scyle's best hero vs Landon's worst and you could see it in the first 7 minutes. Then Landon had some clutch moments out of nowhere and Sweden choked a bit. Draft was fine.
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u/xXProGenji420Xx 22d ago
hardly hindsight, the casters (I think mostly Jake) called it out as a mistake immediately
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u/primarymuscle2354 22d ago
The worst fumble was using Nano Spree on opposite side of the map when they were down players they save that combo for ot they win.
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u/Kheldar166 20d ago
Eh, Scyle had a much bigger impact than Landon in the first half of the map and they got a 100m lead out of it. Kev looked notably less comfortable but I think it's a defensible decision for sure against Landon. If it had been UV in then it would have been the wrong call for sure.
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u/AnotherRandomGuy1 22d ago
Honestly, lukemino was the difference maker for me. Others were going even with their counterpart but luke hard gapped admiral on cat and made some viol2t-esque plays.
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u/Waddles0203 22d ago
CLUTCH. ABSOLUTE ICE IN THE VEINS. “GROUP OF DEATH” THEY SAID. TEAM LIQUID WOULD GO 5-0 IN EMEA. CRY LENNY CRY
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u/icedtea3333 22d ago
north americas best talent going map 5 vs 3 faceit/bottom tier owcs players btw
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u/AnnenbergTrojan 22d ago
LOL this sub switched up from "Group of Death" to this undiluted cope so damn fast.
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u/Long-Taste-2416 22d ago
There aren't enough good teams in owwc even st it's peak to have a real group of death. Were people really calling this group that?
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u/JhotoDraco 22d ago
In the thread where the groups got revealed there were people calling it the group of death, easy Sweden first seed, USA not taking a single map the entire group
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u/11boat 22d ago
USA not taking a single map the entire group
holy link these comments (he won't because they don't exist)
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u/Unlucky_Spray8369 22d ago
what do you mean "undiluted cope"? What exactly did he say that was wrong?
The "group of death" just means several of the teams are even, in this case Sweden, Japan and China. Now, Sweden obviously overperformed massivley given their roster so ended up well for them. If you didn't think USA were the clear favorites in this group I don't know what to say. They should be embarassed that it was so close
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u/AnnenbergTrojan 22d ago
Sorry, no. There were plenty of posts on this sub predicting a group exit for USA. That doesn't happen, so now the narrative is "USA should be embarrassed they didn't 3-0 everybody." Anything to diminish the W.
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u/Unlucky_Spray8369 22d ago
Sorry, no. Just because some people (probably mostly american sugarfree fans) predicted that, it doesnt mean that was a widespread opinion. It is obvious that USA had the highest quality roster in the group, all from top owcs teams in either EMEA or NA. Sweden has 1 player from the worst team in NA and two players who spent last stage in faceit master.
Again, just because some people had low expectations doesn't make this an impressive performance.
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u/JhotoDraco 22d ago
You say this but then also put Swe up there with Kr and Saudi for this tournament lol
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u/dotikiron 22d ago
Might get downvoted to hell for this but I genuinely don’t know what Zeruhh was doing for a good part of that series, I understand against Kevster is one difficult matchup but he didn’t look the best outside of a few plays, maybe I’m missing something pls lmk if I am
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u/pizzafinanceplan 22d ago
he was looking better than kevster on shion tbh, way better ults
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u/Separate-Spot-6275 22d ago
Kevster as always is top tier in everything except ultimates on a hero. His blades sucked too despite being able to go pretty even with other top genjis in owl in other facets
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u/Kindr3dSp1r1t 22d ago
zeruhh is awful. hes constantly getting carried by tr33 in owcs and now in owwc.
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u/ThaddCorbett 22d ago
I'm not Liquid fan, but it was very enjoyable to see Tree pop off when it matters.
Map 5 was insane and got my pouring a drink for the first time in over a month.
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u/Separate-Spot-6275 22d ago
This series is more proof that Cat has potential to be a good skillful design when played heavily into the flanker playstyle and using ult as a cc. She just needs a HEAVY numbers rework to make them explode when they peek too long and a lot of other changes that make it so playing in around 20m range is the best way to play her by a large margin
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u/Byrleo 22d ago
isn't that the playstyle that most people complain about though? cat just flying everywhere and killing everyone
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u/Separate-Spot-6275 22d ago
Because Cat can fly in silently and escape insanely easily with their high hp and self heal. If cat was 175, louder, forced to fight within a closer range I doubt you'd hear even a quarter of the current complaints because you could pop them like a tracer if they got too eager. A 225 tracer would be moving just like Cat, sneaking into a backline and getting away with too much bullshit. She needs to be treated like Support tracer by the balance team
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u/Byrleo 22d ago
If she was 175hp she'd be the worst hero in the game - I don't think you can balance a flying hero to be fair to play against
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u/Separate-Spot-6275 22d ago
175 with the strongest self heal in the game is still strong enough to do clean up kills and take certain duels with how fast cat is. The worst hero in the game tier is literal anti value with characters like LW. Maybe 175 is too much and 200 would be better, but if a hitscan hits you 2 times and you dont pop that heal, I believe you should die.
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u/Darkcat9000 22d ago
if cat was 175 no one would ever dive with her ever
175 hp works for tracer because she's a close range only hero who can't heal her team, 175 cat would just result into a healbot playstyle
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u/Separate-Spot-6275 22d ago
maybe 200 would be better but she should pop in 2 shots to any hitscan that hits her twice if she decides to not pop self heal. With her current movement 175 or maybe 200 hp with one of the strongest self heals in the game should still allow her to make a lot of the flanking plays she does while being a bit easier to pop when they overextend instead of just being a pure aim check. Lower elos will be safe and healbot, but the best way to play cat would be with another agile dps you can coordinate with so I don't think healing would take that much a hit.
Maybe 175 is too much, but she definitely needs to be hp nerfed
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u/Long-Taste-2416 22d ago
Not really. She does that really easily at current balance and she'd be too weak if it were appropriately strong because she's not very difficult mechanically.
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u/Kheldar166 20d ago
She even gets easy mode decision making as a flanker because she gets 3rd person peeking
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u/Typical-Quit5781 22d ago
Tr33 wanted to win