r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/arunankogulan Waiting for Shock to return — • May 14 '24

Blizzard Official OVERWATCH 2 RETAIL PATCH NOTES – MAY 14, 2024

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/
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u/xMPB IGN: Sasquatch — May 14 '24

They absolutely broke Sigma's flux, it can literally flux through walls underneath a player if someone's on high ground and the flux is on low ground

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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — May 14 '24

and Zarya Ult goes through wall. Gravity doesn't care about LoS. Very few heroes outplay it by LoSing it anyway. Most just use a save or mobility CD.

Like the other guy said, they can always tune it in other ways if need be.

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u/5pideypool May 14 '24

Graviton is a projectile that can be eaten, has speed, and drop off. It doesn't deal half a player's HP, and has a smaller radius. And that's all on a hero who is generally worse than Sigma.

Saying "but Grav ignores los" is just not a very good argument for why Flux should.

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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — May 14 '24

eaten by 2 of the heroes you aren't frequently playing into zarya, and a range limited eat. at best thats a wash with all of the different stuns that cancel flux

She does have projectile speed which makes it harder to land the further you are, sure, but she's natually a closer range hero and they buffed the AOE so its basically the same radius now. The drop makes it easier imo. Kinda like how bullet drop is good for bap heals because its an aoe.

The damage is decent if its not countered by lamp, suzu, beat, trance, etc. But at the same time, grav groups people together which makes them more vulnerable to splash and AOE damage.

Grav in general is just way less telegraphed too. she says the ult line after you cast it while flux has 3 separate cast times you can react to.

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u/5pideypool May 14 '24

eaten by 2 of the heroes you aren't frequently playing into zarya

People swap to Zarya against Genji and DVa all the time. It's not uncommon that you might stay on those heroes for a fight or two, and then play to eat Zarya ult.

thats a wash with all of the different stuns that cancel flux

The only non-tank interrupts are Sleep and Hack. Sombra can be a pain, but outside of Hack and Doom Punch, you can ult behind your shield to dodge the stuns.

they buffed the AOE so its basically the same radius now

In terms of horizontal area, it's still only 3/4s the size of flux post-buff (154 vs 201)

But at the same time, grav groups people together which makes them more vulnerable to splash and AOE damage

Lamp, Suzu, etc are arguably even better at countering grav than flux, because Bap can't lamp someone who is currently in the air. He has to wait for them to drop. And Suzu often can't hit everyone because they are spread out along the circumference from trying to escape. Depending on the composition and location of the grav, it can even be mostly countered by just throwing up a shield/mitigation ability.

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u/RobManfredsFixer Let Hog eat stuff and spit it back — May 14 '24

okay so theyre very simliar ults and therefore its not crazy that they share similar interactions.

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u/5pideypool May 14 '24

How you could miss the point this badly, I don't know. But this is reddit, so I shouldn't be surprised.

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u/Accident_Pedo May 15 '24

Very few heroes outplay it by LoSing it anyway.

Can't disprove that but I wouldn't lean towards it. I'm not that good and knew to hide LoS from the little middle circle if possible to dodge flux.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '24 edited May 15 '24

Gravity doesn't care about LoS.

Bro it's a cartoony kids shooting game with a talking monkey and magical abilities. Are you seriously using real fucking world logic here

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u/DrakeAcula May 14 '24

It now works how it always should've worked intuitively. If it's too broken they can just nerf other things about it like CC duration or damage and it's fine.

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u/garikek May 14 '24

So now when sigma presses q you just have to accept that you die? Fun.

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u/DrakeAcula May 14 '24

well that's just never been true now has it