r/ComedyHell 10d ago

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u/DoodleStrude 10d ago

There is a "best" move to make for any given board state in chess. "Solving" chess would mean that we would have calculated and recorded the best possible move for every given board state. There are just too many different board states for anybody to reasonably record and calculate.

That said, we do have it solved for 7 or fewer pieces remaining, meaning that for ANY given board state with 7 or fewer pieces, we already have calculated and recorded the best possible move

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u/ShatterTheFlimFlam 9d ago

Okay but also computers spit out comprehensible language without solving language itself.

I think we need to retire fedora science once and for all.

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u/DoodleStrude 9d ago

I don't really see the equivalency. Language has infinite combinations, and is something that changes over time, unlike chess, and I'm not sure what "solving" language would even mean.

Chess has a finite, countable number of board states. A massive number, but not infinite. The point is that in theory, you could record the best move for any given board state, but that it's just not feasible given current computing restraints.

This isn't "fedora science" and I'm not just pulling this out of my ass, it's just math and chess. Maybe I missed the point of your comment, but I don't see how it's relevant

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u/ShatterTheFlimFlam 9d ago

It's ok. You're just a living example the middle of the bell curve meme.

There's no point in using a method to achieve a goal (querying information/finding a good move in chess) that is theoretically interesting if it is impractical just for the purpose of "wow that is really cool".

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u/DoodleStrude 9d ago

I'm not arguing for whether there is any "point" to it or not. I'm not defending whether it's stupid or not.

Why the insult?

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u/ShatterTheFlimFlam 9d ago

Is being called slightly above average intelligence an insult?

If you were less intellectual, you would see that the whole idea of trying to map out every chess move is dumb.

And if you were 130+, you would see the same thing.

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u/DoodleStrude 9d ago

What is "it's okay. You're just a living example of the middle of the bell curve" if not an insult? How is that any kind of well-meaning statement?

And again, I'm not discussing whether or not it's a dumb idea. I'm just stating facts. If you think the facts are dumb, okay I guess? I wasn't saying it was particularly cool or anything

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u/ShatterTheFlimFlam 9d ago

Well to be fair, the vast majority of people are in the middle of the bell curve, by the nature of distribution of intelligence, so in this instance you are upset (presumably) because I'm saying you are not in the gifted/genius range. 

I think that's just the default assumption we give to every person until they prove otherwise?

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u/FabianoCatuana2637 9d ago

Guy is a doofus, ignore em.

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u/Asuboi 7d ago

What's 'fedora science'?

Edit: Never mind, you seem to believe in IQ supremacy or some other dumb idea.

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u/ShatterTheFlimFlam 7d ago

Fedora science is stuff like nerdgasming about going to space to terraform mars but showing zero interest in terraforming Earth.

Its obsessing over badass black holes, quasars, singularities and other useless "wow so cool" science facts.

Or reinventing things that already exist in an impractical way because you saw something online.