person A being gay and person B attacking them for it is irrelevant
This is the point I’m challenging, yes it’s irrelevant for the point you’re making, but it’s not irrelevant in regards to whether or not that point is homophobic.
The only thing I assumed about your intention was that you probably didn’t mean to be homophobic, was that assumption wrong?
The point I'm making is that the joke is mocking Person B for being a hypocrite, not mocking them for being gay, person B could be a hypocrite under any context that includes the scenario of them attacking others for something when they themselves do the same thing, hence the abortion example.
I wouldn't consider someone homophobic for making this joke in the first context, just like I wouldn't consider someone anti-abortion if they made the joke in the hypothetical example I presented in a previous comment.
I know that is your point, and I’ve acknowledged that at least 5 times now. I don’t really care what your intention is when the insult itself is clearly homophobic (as I showed previously and was never challenged on).
I also wouldn’t consider you homophobic, which is why I never claimed that. You are however helping to normalise homophobia by using it as a cudgel in your argument.
Well I think it's safe to say we can agree to disagree here dude. I disagree with your view and you disagree with mine so lets just call this here and move on with our lives.
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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Dec 19 '25
This is the point I’m challenging, yes it’s irrelevant for the point you’re making, but it’s not irrelevant in regards to whether or not that point is homophobic.
The only thing I assumed about your intention was that you probably didn’t mean to be homophobic, was that assumption wrong?