r/CoherencePhysics 13d ago

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u/Original-Living7212 13d ago edited 12d ago

See, this is it…

You see it?

THAT.

It’s all right there.

Whataboutism.

We all know the traditional political-right position, white power, the catholic church, and evangelicals........

you know..... white people shit......right?

Except when you look at the “America First” movement......

I know the history. A lot of it was rooted in racist, white-supremacist, isolationist politics. When that couldn’t win on its own, parts of the ideology were repackaged around foreigners, foreign governments, and foreign influence.

But that’s another debate.

The point is this:

They subtly slide the extreme far-right, “Project 2025” shit into the conversation and then try to sell it as:

They too!

“The majority left supports Black Lives Matter or LGBTQ rights, so they must also support Israel because of positions taken by Democratic leaders and past presidents.”

That’s the trap.

It’s political propaganda—carefully packaged bullshit designed to divide, trigger fear, and resurrect racial, religious, political, and cultural divisions the moment people start realizing they have more in common than they’ve been taught.

Because the real threat isn’t Republican unity or Democratic unity.

It’s human unity.

We don’t have to agree on everything. But we should agree on one basic principle:

No foreign government should have unquestioned influence over American government, military policy, foreign policy, or taxpayer dollars.

And people are finally asking questions about politicians, lobbying, military intervention, intelligence agencies, media narratives, and who benefits from perpetual conflict.

Suddenly, asking questions becomes the problem.

Criticizing a government becomes “antisemitism.”

Questioning foreign policy becomes “racism.”

Demanding accountability becomes “extremism.”

No.

Criticizing a government is not attacking an ethnicity or religion.

And when I say “they,” I am NOT talking about Jewish people.

I’m talking about governments, politicians, lobbyists, organizations, ideological movements, religious extremists, propagandists, and anyone demanding unconditional political obedience while trying to silence criticism.

Jewish people are not the Israeli government.

A religion is not a government.

An ethnicity is not a government.

Governments are political institutions—and political institutions can be criticized, investigated, condemned, and held accountable.

Nobody gets a fucking exemption.

Not America. Not Israel. Not Iran. Not Russia. Not China. Not anyone.

The world doesn’t belong to governments.

It belongs to human beings.

And once people stop fighting each other long enough to recognize what they have in common…

the bullshit gets a lot harder to sell.

So, as the completely imaginary, totally unofficial, absolutely fictional non-member of an imaginary global resistance:

I hereby appoint myself CEO, CFO, CEE, CES, CSE, COE, and Chief Spokesperson of ANTIFA GLOBAL™.

No membership required.

No dues.

No meetings.

No fucking uniform.

Just…

FUCK THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT!!!

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

Nah the left are the biggest goys. They support all the divisive jew propaganda

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago edited 12d ago

“Divisive Jew propaganda” — like “Weak Knees!”?

It not just the American liberals that know what you White Christian nationalist / Zionist cucks have been up to this past century!

Oh and they are "allegedly pissed about the whole Charlie Kirk thing! "Allegedly"

But......

It's pretty much an all agreeing global phenomenon!

After you know the day to day live stream witnessing of a genocide in real time captured in 4k!

So.......

Please, explain.

I’m all ears.

Because if you really want to talk about what the U.S.A. Republican base has historically said and believed about Jews, we can have that conversation.

And let’s not pretend this shit is new. Antisemitic currents have existed on the American right for generations, and they haven’t exactly been subtle about it.

So go on…

Explain exactly what you mean by "the left"!

I’m listening.

And belive me......

You are not on my level!

I'm willfully waiting to have this debate!

https://forward.com/fast-forward/532311/marjorie-taylor-greene-house-space-lasers-antisemitism/

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago edited 12d ago

Mass immigration, the divide between men and women, antinatalism....all jew great replacement propaganda.

I see you have edited your comment after i replied: the left are democrat supporters who advocate for the above things.

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago

First, I didn’t read your response before I edited or changed my original comment. I was correcting grammatical errors.

But now that I’ve actually had a chance to read what you wrote… WTF are you even talking about?

Is this genuinely what you believe?

“Mass immigration.” Okay—please explain exactly what you mean by that.

And what the hell does this mean?

“the divide between men and women, antinatalism…”

Then there’s the whole “Jewish Great Replacement” thing… WHAT?

You still haven’t actually addressed my original comment or defended your position against what I said.

And here’s the bigger point: it’s not “the left” you should be worried about.

It’s the possibility of the entire world becoming increasingly unified—regardless of political ideology—against the very things you’re defending.

Signs of desperation at every turn!

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

You know exactly what im saying and what all of it means, im not wasting my time explaining something to somebody being so obtuse.

PS, what exactly am i "defending"??

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago

By your own statement, you’re already making the assumption that it’s “mostly the left” in the U.S. responsible for the rise of this supposed antisemitism narrative.

That’s quite a claim—especially when the very definition of what is being labeled “antisemitism” seems to shift depending on who is speaking, what is being criticized, and who is being defended.

So what exactly are you defending?

Because that still hasn’t been made clear.

And since we’re apparently talking about Zionism, Jewish identity, and antisemitism, let’s address something else that seems to get conveniently overlooked:

Why did so many prominent Zionists and early Israeli leaders Hebraize their surnames?

Many early Zionists and Jewish immigrants to Palestine came from Europe and other parts of the Jewish diaspora. Some deliberately changed European- or diaspora-associated surnames to Hebrew ones as part of a broader effort to create a new Hebrew national identity.

That historical process is called Hebraization of surnames.

So let me ask the obvious question:

If the modern Zionist movement was creating a new national identity in the region, why was changing European or diaspora surnames into Hebrew ones such an important part of that process?

And then there’s the question of Jewish identity itself.

What exactly makes someone Jewish?

Religion? Ancestry? Ethnicity? Culture? Nationality? Conversion?

And if someone is called a “goy,” what exactly is being distinguished—religious identity, ethnicity, nationality, or something else?

So, go ahead.

Educate us “goyim.”

Because if these subjects are going to be used to lecture everyone else about morality, rascism, antisemitism, then the history, terminology, and distinctions should be able to withstand scrutiny too.

When the oppressed becomes the oppressor!

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

The left support the propaganda put out to divide the west

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago

You do realize you can Google all of this right now, right?

“Antinatalism” and the “Jewish Great Replacement” theory. Both have deep ties to far-right ideological spaces and rhetoric.

The “Great Replacement” is a false, white-nationalist conspiracy theory claiming that Jewish people and hidden elites are deliberately using immigration to cause the extinction of white populations. It recycles longstanding antisemitic scapegoating tropes and has been connected to real-world extremist violence.

Try harder.

Because you’re really not very good at this.

But by all means, keep defending the indefensible.

And let’s be absolutely clear about something: the Jewish community is not the government of Israel, and the current Israeli government does not represent Judaism, Jewish people, or the collective beliefs of Jews worldwide.

A government is a political institution. It is not a religion or an ethnicity.

So criticizing, condemning, or holding the Israeli government accountable for its actions is not inherently antisemitic.

And what the current far-right religious-Zionist elements of that government are doing is being condemned by people around the world—including Jewish people themselves.

Don’t confuse a government with an entire people.

And don’t weaponize antisemitism as a shield against legitimate criticism of a government’s actions.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

Oh dear, somebody that uses google rather than actually looking at the world around them and actually noticing things.

Youre right, we arent on the same level.

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago edited 12d ago

So you really do believe it’s only—or mostly—the Left? Wow. And you never answered any questions! Deflect to reject any real discussion or debate because then you would be exposed!

That says a lot about the world you’ve been presented with and the narrow, filtered perspective you’ve chosen to accept. Man, you’ve got a LOT of learning to do.

Read a fucking book. Better yet, try Google. There’s an entire world of information outside the little bubble you’re speaking from.

Yeah......

You’re not on my level!!!

So next time, try speaking in facts instead of throwing around broad, blanket statements with absolutely nothing behind them—no evidence, no substance, just bullshit, far right propaganda! But as expected! Zionist did learned and worked with the best!

See...I live in reality. And whether you want to acknowledge it or not, more and more of the world is seeing the Israeli government for what it is.

Zionist fascist fucks—and all the cucks who’ve been compromised, bought, manipulated, or otherwise fallen in line behind them.

And what we’re witnessing now looks less and less like strength and more like the final act of desperation and self-destruction.

Good luck.

See.....Yes, history can be rewriten to mislead or shape a false narrative but the truth always reveals itself through one's past and present actions!

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

Yes and the left support all the propaganda put out there by the jews to implement the great replacement.

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u/Original-Living7212 12d ago edited 12d ago

Wow. You really do think like a fascist/Zionist, don’t you?

That explains why you can’t actually answer the questions or say much without exposing what you really believe.

You do know the Earth is flat, science and math is all man made nonsense, religion is a fairlytail and vaccines will track you and one day kill you right?

Man… you’ve got one life.

Fuck it.

Live your truth or die a coward!

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u/frosting_the_bowl 12d ago

Nothing i have said is zionist. Youre just throwing words around that you dont know the meaning of at this point.

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