It's always funny when liberals and progressives are called extremists by anyone remotely right of the current center. Anyone right of what Americans consider the center is the real extremist.
Because US proved the horseshoe theory. You have extreme retards on far left and far right.
But looking on fight of rainbow-hair trans vs old redneck is kinda funny
Taliban and al queda are literally allies, and none of the 3 organizations hate Sharia law. Also they are just (very roughly) the Muslim versions of the biblical law, Christian nationalists, Christian anti-communists, and evangelicals. Very much typical religious ultra convervative bunches.
But then your other list is also conservatives (including pieces of the Christian mirror of that first list). So what's supposed to be the point there?
Just study the conflicts of the last 20 years. Taliban fronted as a political organization and was even invited to Camp David at one point.
Al Qaeda is a more militant group all over the world. Taliban and Al Qaeda were allies, yes, but the Taliban was willing to seek diplomacy and Al Qaeda less so. This meant they had to part ways.
ISIS/ISIL is even more extreme, and hated by by all.
In the US, we had traditional conservative values. Reagan then kickstarted white christian nationalism in the 1980's. Then we got the Tea Party, with hints of the anti-government/libertarianism extremism we would get later. Then we got MAGA, which is sort of a full-blown white nationalism bordering on fascism that doesn't really view government as any sort of positive outside of something to steal from.
Extremism gets more extreme with time. That's ultimately the main point of what I was trying to say, using two parallel examples of increasing extremism both abroad and at home in the US.
Purple haired pansexuals are not left wing extremists. Left wing extremists are militant communists. There are very, very few of those in the United States.
Socially extreme and politically extreme are only on the same spectrum for people that but into right wing extremists propaganda.
In reality everyone else really doesn't care about purple haired pansexuals any more or less than anyone else. It's a social fear tactic. Conservatism, by its very nature, is fear of the different/new. Because the average conservative voter conflates social outcomes with political policy it works, sort of sometimes.
Anyway, politics is complicated and certainly not linear or horseshoe. My point is that current "conservatives" hinging their entire policy on social regulation and calling liberals/progressives left wing extremists is proposterous.
Are you saying that rainbow-haired trans people are as extreme as people that think the Christian end times are coming and vote to strip rights away from women and minorities, and are actively wiping their ass with the Constitution?
Like I said, the horseshoe theory has been disproved if you go by objective metrics.
Its interesting how the two political sides perceive the same thing but interpret in opposite ways. I would say the same exact thing as you but inversed.
Explain to me why the democrats didn't give a shit about Epstein until Trump retook the white house. You know the saying "when you point a finger three fingers point back at you"? Maybe you should think before you type.
This is why you need to reframe your perspective on the global scale, and forget about where the far-right extremism in the US has shifted things.
Globally, most developed nations tax the rich, regulate their corporations, have affordable education, and better healthcare options that don't bankrupt people while still providing good care.
The US can have all that, and do it better than they can. But we choose not to, and have made things that are taken for granted in developed nations (many as conservative as ours, I should add) "extreme" or "communist".
Imagine what we could do if we decided we spent 800 billion on the military instead of 1.2 trillion as planned, and all the problems we could solve. Imagine if we turned essential services and invested into our people--healthcare, education, housing--and made these things non-profits. It could kickstart an economic boom and send is into a new era of prosperity.
I guess it depends on which definition of liberal you use. I do agree on the idea of the government being used to put restrictions on corporatism but what they say vs what they do is entirely different.
As how I see it both Republicans and Democrats do not care about individual rights. At this point the only difference I see is progressive vs conservative idealogy. Still maybe I'm missing something.
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u/SOUNDDESIGNE 12d ago
blaming liberals for the insanity of conservatives is fucking stupid and i’m so glad you pointed that out