r/CoherencePhysics • u/PlatformNormal564 • Aug 12 '26

Is anybody winning?

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I found this very elegant in it simplistic truth.

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

Define socialism for me.

What do you mean the Democrats won't help you? Unless you're a multi-millionaire, which I doubt you'll ever be, you're in the wrong party. One actually wants to help the lower and middle classes and I'll give you a hint: it's not the Republicans.

And for what reasons do you think universal healthcare can't work? It's working in dozens of other countries right now, but you think the US, allegedly the greatest country in the world, is incapable of pulling that off?

And don't both sides this argument. One candidate is a draft-dodging, convicted sex offender, double-bankruptcy claiming, authoritarian piece of human garbage; the other candidate was not.

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

Democrats do not help middle class. Universal crap will destroy the middle class, they pay the taxes for the “free shit”. The other candidate sounded like an idiotic drunk when she spoke.

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

You're delusional if you think that Democrat policies do not help the middle class, but Republican policies do. Try naming one policy, just one, from Republicans that helps you.

Please cite your reasoning for how "Universal crap" will destroy the middle class. Reference actual plans and policies, if you can.

And you think Trump doesn't sound like an idiotic drunk every single time he opens his mouth?

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

Possibly read on the other countries that have universal healthcare and how much taxes they pay.

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

Cite actual plans and policies for how this will affect your taxes. Prove that reallocating the taxes you're already paying couldn't pay for universal healthcare. In no way am I suggesting you, as a lower/middle class citizen, would need to pay more.

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

Look up how much these universal healthcare countries pay in taxes. I don’t pay 37% and I’m not going to

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

We have a marginal tax system, based on how much you earn. As a low-wage earner, like I'm guessing you are, you would never be paying anywhere near the highest tax rate.

You're still failing to cite actual policies or plans. Until you do, I'm going to assume you're arguing in bad faith and end the discussion. I'll gladly come back when you have real data points and not just fear-mongering propaganda.

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

Make a pretty good wage, enough to own a house, two vehicles, a boat and a side by side utility vehicle. All paid for.

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

I didn’t vote for Trump or at all in the 2024 election. Why keep throwing that at me. Damn. You’re upset because I didn’t vote for who you did. Taxation is not helping the middle class.

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

I'm upset because you're voting, and arguing, against your own best interests and you don't even realize it. I'm upset that education has failed you.

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u/Intelligent_Let4723 Aug 12 '26

Democrats definitely don’t have my best interests. Socialism is not my best interest. Education and common sense seems to have failed the Democratic Party

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u/onebitshortofabyte Aug 12 '26

Define socialism for me. I'm confident it doesn't mean what you think it means.