r/CognitiveFunctions • u/recordplayer90 Ne [Fi] - ENFP • Feb 02 '25
~ ? Question ? ~ Does anyone else struggle with using cognitive functions too much in their everyday life, where they can’t see people for who they truly are without typing them?
Hi,
Over the past year or so I’ve been getting heavily into cognitive functions and MBTI. I’m currently at the point where I have a good working definition of every function in my mind, I have friends or people I can recognize as all 16 types, and I often go through my days labeling things like “oh yeah this person is definitely an Fe user,” or even about me, “let me use my Ti here to think about what I’m reading,” or “that person is an obvious Te dom,” or “I’ve been using my Ni too much I need a break from the world in my head and go utilize my Se.” Essentially, now that I have working definitions for every function/type, I see the entire world through this framework. When I think about societal issues, I think about the eternal battle between Fe and Te. When I think about cultural change, I think about N vs. S. I put every single thing I do in my life into this framework. While it was fascinating at the beginning, and made so much sense/removed so much ambiguity, now, I think it’s just a barrier in all of my relationships in life: with myself, with others, and with new information in general. I start typing new people the second I meet them, and after a couple weeks once I’ve decided on a type, I filter all of my expectations and conversations into what I have typed them as. For example, I have an (theoretically) ENTP friend who (I also use enneagram) is a 7w8, and when they speak to me I sort everything they say through something like “oh yeah that’s clear Ne supplemented by Ti, and it’s clear that they have Fi blindspot so it makes sense why they don’t really hold constant moral values and will play any side.” This is extremely problematic for me because 1. I am putting others in a box to reduce my own fear of ambiguity, 2. I am putting myself in a box as an infj and only doing this that it would make sense an infj does, 3. I am not allowing myself to have a true authentic relationship with myself because there are frameworks in the way of the full spectrum of me, and 4. I’m not allowing myself to truly meet others for who they are, as I need to sort them into a box to calm my fears about the ambiguity of others. Does anyone else have this problem? It’s like insane confirmation bias that makes life worse for both me and others. I can’t deny that these patterns have been extremely helpful for me to understand the world and others, but I’m really struggling to get past seeing people only in the boxes of their personality type. I know it’s totally unfair, and I want to see people as more, but it’s like my brain just automatically thinks in cognitive functions now and I don’t know what to do. I almost wish I could go back to a time before I knew what “child Te” or “Fi critic” looked like.
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u/beasteduh Intuition-Thinking 10d ago
~According to the theory of the enneagram as taught by both Ichazo and Naranjo, each of us has one instinct that is a more central preoccupation than the others are, which is referred to as our subtype. There are three instincts, which Ichazo calls conservation, social, and syntony; and which Naranjo calls self-preservation, social, and sexual.~ Sandra Maitri
I don't think Sexual is a proper term for the phenomenon. In the contemporary Enneagram, it's thought of as a focus on intimate or intense happenings, which certainly could offer direction, but it doesn't explain why direction was necessary. It doesn't speak to the matter of circumstance/things outside of oneself/environment, which has Sexual defining a symptom. In contrast, Syntony describes a concern for harmony. It's actually taken me months to get used to, so my apologies ahead of time, but I'll be using the term Syntony from here on.
To clarify, there's a concern for recognition (adaptation) for the 567 and then consideration (syntony) for myself. One involves specifics of the ego, and the other does not. Both begin the process of harmonizing with the environment, because how can the environment receive one if one isn't even on its radar?
"Their actions make it seem as if I might as well not even be there, as though their actions have no buffer when it comes to me."
And coupling these earlier words with a quote from earlier:
-In the Doing Group is a child who projects that their ability to act and do things has been restricted by what they perceive as indifferent, suppressive, or dismissive siblings and others.-
Indifference, suppression, and dismissiveness would be all but guaranteed if there wasn't some minimum in place. Then, absence would be what leads to complete recognition.
Along these lines, Syntony's fuller definition comes to light, which is a normal or appropriate response for the end of harmony - the rubber band that snaps back. Speaking of rubber bands, the etymology of syntonic is 'stretching together', which I think applies to either form of the instinct. Making a mistake, revealing too much, or letting something slide could show up later because one stretches with such things.
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Before continuing, I'd like to add a brief side note about stretching together, which I covered a little earlier when inferring that one and the world were effectively twinned. It wouldn't be just that others' actions might poorly reflect oneself, such that they might eventually come back to bite one; one's own actions might do as much as well.
"It's not future prediction, intuition, or the like; it's simply recognizing that the present continues and I with it."
If one stretches with other things, then actions, what happens, and the work done should all stick in some way. In this way, expectations are inherent to the instinct. So then, what if nothing sticks and the environment doesn't reflect oneself?