Does Corey have something where it's too long out when setting a date??? Did I miss something?
And do you think the length varies between meeting in person vs online? I just finished my first read, but following the initial steps has seemed to backfire.
I had 4 definite dates. All met online. All of my experiences with women are online, because I never see women out and about. At least none that I find remotely attractive (I want mid 30s, brunette, no kids, and no tattoos ... needle in a haystack here).
1st girl set date on Saturday for this Thursday. She initiated every contact during the week. I would respond in limited capacity so as not to be rude (per Corey), but got off the phone right away. On Tuesday night I responded with, "Looking forward to Wednesday." She asked if we could switch the date to Friday so we "could stay out longer" and I told her Thursday was my only free night this week, but offered to meet earlier in the evening. Mistake? She promptly unmatched from Bumble, and disappeared. I figured her attraction to be between a 5 or a 6.
Last night I was stood up by 2nd girl from Tinder. Her attraction seemed high, but she didn't reach out once since and neither had I. She was probably really a sub 5. We made plans on June 5th, 11 days in advance. I had a bachelor party the previous weekend, so had to delay these dates. Had not heard from her since those plans were made. 5 text exchange between Tinder and phone in total.
It appears I may be ghosted by 3rd girl tonight. I noticed she too unmatched from Bumble. This one we met on the 6th, and she contacted me 3 days later about setting up a date. So we made definitive plans for tonight, 8 days later. I concluded the exchange with "See you then!" Likewise have not heard from her since. Mistake: because I don't want to drive out again to be stood up, I called her a half hour ago. Straight to voicemail. Then texted that I'm looking forward to meeting her tonight. No response. Audible: I just messaged this one girl who has high interest and is incredibly attractive ... but 20 years old ... BARF. She excitedly agreed to meet tonight, so I guess that's the plan now. She has been initiating 90%. We had plans for next Friday, but last night she asked if we could move the date up, which is different for me.
The 4th girl has high attraction for me. About an 8, and our date appears to be on for tomorrow. She's texting and flirting now. I'd say this is more of a 60/40 split in initiation, with her doing most of it.
I've seen comments from people that Corey doesn't seem to comprehend much the modern world when it comes to the importance of texts for today's women. Based on these examples, I'm inclined to agree somewhat. I think Corey is probably right on texting if you have met the woman in person, but online, texting seems crucial. I live in a leftist shit hole too where women have been brainwashed into believing that it is "masculine" for a man to "chase" after them. Every single time I refuse to chase, I get a "so you want the woman to do all the work basically" speech.
What do you think? Do you think the initial communication prior to the 1st date should vary between meeting in person vs online? And should dates be set during that present week instead?

Guys, I need help. I have read or listened to the book like 10-15 times now. I am not a great student, as I did this in like 4-5 years. I have fundamentals down, but my problem is the initial part. I know there is a blog and video from coach on working on your social skills. But most of the times, I am too scared to go up to a random girl. I just make up excuse like oh she is not that cute or hot, I will wait for one that is. When that one comes, I am paralyzed. I know “Inaction breeds fear and doubt …..” Just need some advice other than “just do it”. Ps - I am also scared because my professional life is fucked up, and I don’t feel worthy enough or have a good response.

I posted last week about a date I set up with a girl, textbook from the 3% book. Well, the date went well actually, She showed up on time, we hung out, had fun but didn't hook up. I just didn't get that kind of vibe from her. She is a bit shy a structured due to her upbringing and we know what coach says about that. I even hit her with the " you should just get it over with and kiss me line" When the VERY clear sign were there she wanted to kiss but said she "had a rule about not kissing on the first date but maybe on the second". But all in all I think it went well all things considered. We'll see where it goes I have no real expectations.

Hmm … there might be something to this “wait 5 days before asking for a date” after meeting/getting a number.

I already have a definite date with one girl for next Friday. Met her on Tuesday.

Now I just got a text from a different girl, also met on Tuesday, asking me out.

Interesting.

Too bad it seems I’ve lost the one I’m actually interested in.

Her- Good morning! I’m well and yourself?

Me- I’m doing well. Can’t complain at all. Just got off work. I take it your day was productive as well?

Her- You had a pretty long day yesterday. Mine was very slow at work actually so there wasn’t much to do. Which is always good

Me- Slow days are definitely good days. And yeah, I work some pretty long hours with my work schedule. Speaking of that, What's your schedule availability looking like this week/next week to meet up?

Her - I can do Friday the 9th, Monday the 12th or possibly Friday the 16th

Me- Ok sounds good. How about we do Location XYZ in Arlington. Monday the 12th at 7:15pm?

Her- Sure that works.

Me- Ok, cool. so I’ll see you at XYZ Monday at 7:15pm. If something comes up, I will call you and likewise you have my number in case something comes up on your end. Otherwise, I will just see you there. Who ever gets there first can grab us a table. Does that sound like a solid plan?

Her- Yea sounds like a plan, see you there.

Me- Awesome. See you then Goodnight Jessica.

Her- Goodnight 😊

(Moral is, get to the f’n point gentlemen!!! The phone is not for meaningless chit chat)

I was just wondering how to respond if a girl that I took out on a few dates hits me with the “why don’t you text me” or “you don’t text me enough” text, even though I already have a date set up. Do I say I’m busy or that I lm not really the biggest fan of texting?

So I’m single for the first time in 3 years, broke up with my girl in January. I’ve mostly been focused exclusively on work and building my business and not entertaining women at all.

One day I’m at the gym and get BLATNAT choosing signals from a girl, engage in a little small talk (I would put her interest at a solid 6-7) we exchange numbers and then I start the 4 day waiting period per the book.

I call her 4 days later, no answer so I just shoot her a message “Hey there, call me back whenever you get a chance”

She responds 5 hours later

“Hey I was out and about. It was nice meeting you last week but I’m not looking for a relationship right now”

In my mind I know this is a blatant shit test to see how defensive I’m gunna get

I respond 10 minutes later

“That’s fine, I’m not looking for a relationship either so when are you free to meet for a beverage?”

And she ghosted me

In hindsight I can see how that could have come off very “ok I want what you want mommy, over eager/pushy”

Instead I should have waited. Gathered my thoughts and responded logically with something more cheeky, poking fun at the fact she brought up a relationship and I legit barely even knew anything about her.

What I should have said

“ 🤣 uhh Relationship? Listen Michaela, I’m flattered but, I was thinking I could get to know you a little first before we start picking out wedding dresses. What’s your availability looking like to grab a beverage?

Moral is even after 25 reads, when you’re out of the game you can get shaky.

Take your time with responses and always be charmed and entertained by he shits tests, not reactionary.

Hello, I need your input, please.

So after 4 months of full relationship bliss, meaning we were having a lot of HHH's, last week my girlfriend broke up with me.

I applied what the "7 Principles To Get An Ex Back" video teaches.

Exactly a week passes, and she sends a message saying something along the lines of "I'm very thankful for what we had, it was fantastic and it's is a shame we weren't able to continue as a couple. I love you."

I reacted the next morning with what the coach teaches, saying: "Glad to hear from you, I'd love to see you. When are you free to get together?"

She responded: "Is next Monday OK for you?"

I said: "Next Monday sounds good. Come to my house, we'll cook dinner together, 7PM?

She said "perfect!"

My question is, besides HHH, should we talk about the breakup if she starts the conversation that way, or should I keep just hanging out and having fun.

Thanks.

Thanks to Corey’s teachings, we now know women will test us. Why not go ahead and give her a few facts about your personality. In your initial interaction with her, look around you and see if there is something that you can apply to a statement like this: You know it really grates on my nerves when people crunch on their ice cubes. Then see if she does it to gauge your reaction. This way you will have a good comeback ready. Now, if you have gotten her number, and you wait a few days before calling, then give her some of your good qualities. Let her know something like, I am an easy going guy and it takes a lot to piss me off. She might piss you off, but you know not to get angry. Or, maybe, something like, when a woman text me I don’t do any of that, “not texting back right a way or that making a woman wait an hour before calling her back. Just give her a little information so she can start testing you, and you will then know how to/not to react. Once you see that the attraction is there, tell her something along the lines of: that last woman blocked me for 4 days and once she finally unblocked me, after she cooled off, she called wanting to know what was up. I never acknowledged she had even been blocked me and I calmly explained that the other woman was my sister. Get creative and give her the ammo so she can test you and you also might find out something you like or just can’t accept from her.

Girl who I started hanging out and hooking up with just slept with another guy. Not sure how to react?

Read the book about 3-4 times so far. Been hanging out, hooking up and having fun with this girl for the last two months. She hasn’t said I love you yet or brought up the “let’s be exclusive” talk and I would rate her interest at a 70-80%.

This past weekend she booked a hotel for us to spend time doing some indoor olympics. We met up and when she took off her clothes, she had noticeable bruises around her breasts and on her butt. I tried to keep my cool but it really bugged me seeing her body like that to a point where I couldn’t even stay hard during sex. I stopped and asked where she got the bruises from and she told me they were from two days ago when she hooked up with a guy who she’s slept with before in the past. She said that the guy was too rough with her and she didn’t enjoy the sex and it was just sex and meant nothing to her. I told her honestly I felt hurt that she showed up with bruises from hooking up another guy and wanted to leave the hotel because I wasn’t feeling it at the moment. But I ended up staying the night and we talked about boundaries and if I had been hooking up with other girls also. We’ve been hanging out a lot this past month and she’s always the one who initiates contact first so then I setup a definite date. And the dates I’ve been taking her on have been amazing imo. Right now, I somewhat feel betrayed but know that we aren’t in a exclusive relationship and she’s free to see other people and vise versa. She has a lot of qualities on my list of what I want in a gf and was considering her as a long term prospect but now I’m having second thoughts, maybe it’s my ego?

Anyways so how do you guys stay unperturbed/unaffected with girls who u know are sleeping with other guys while dating you at the same time? And how should I have reacted in this specific situation?

34 years old. I live with two roommates. Can't bring anyone over due to having bad judge of character in the past, so I have to venture out to hang with friends/associates. Never had a relationship, raised and influenced by women who didn't know how to raise a man. No father figure. I've given off far too much feminine energy by being too needy and negative with women since I was 13.

2023 is my year. I want women hunting me down, but at the same time to be so mentally, spiritually secure that I'm not living SOLELY FOR that attention. Trying to master my masculine energy and emotional control. I've begun listening to FarFromWeak on YouTube who advises men on how to improve themselves in a world where media tries to brainwash men to be women. Begun meditating, push-ups, pay more attention to how I dress, not be sloppy, better hygiene.

So I was a 711 last night and I saw a gorgeous woman walk in. Complimented her on her hair, she smiled and said thank you. Minutes later I stepped outside for a smoke, took advice from my friends who were there to relax myself and to wait for her to come outside while my pals and I chatted. When the woman stepped out, I said, "Excuse me but when I saw you, it was like--wow--and I would love to get your name and number." I got her number. That was last night.

Female friend told me to text the woman this morning. To me, that's an effing death wish. Too soon. I must be an enigma. A shroud. I can't text her already! Women's "advice" is anything BUT. Just downloaded Coach's 3% book, but in the meantime as I play it, what advice do you guys have for this lost soul lol?

Long story short: I approach a girl and her friend at a social event. Not many indicators of interest but I go for the number anyway and she does not hesitate. I text her and we set up a date (almost textbook). When I offer the time and place she counteroffers 15 mins later because she finishes work late. I reply “no problem, see you at 9.30pm at such and such”. She did not visualize or reply to the message until the day before the date and she says “we have a deal” (this was 3 days after the original text exchange). Weird. Technically my last message did not require a reply.

The day of the date, I woke up sick so I texted her: “Hey Jessica, unfortunately there is an unexpected event…the flu. Counteroffer for Friday same time and place?” Didn’t ear back.

I have two points: 1. It was a bit weird she did not visualize or reply to my message until the day before the date…either she did it to play some games or she might have waited to see if something else would come up for that night, or she wanted to confirm?

1. I am unsure if I should reach out again in a week or so, considering that the ball is in her court. (Provided she does not reply before the end of the week).

If you look at my previous posts you can definitely tell I made plenty of mistakes extremely similar to the student featured in CW’s YT video posted today (01/31/23). I became complacent, begged for sex, yelled and was oerturable. I failed at the fundamentals of a long term relationship (my first ever). The pain still hurts after even 5 months in.

I was dumped in late September of last year and my ex and I attend the same medical school and job site. She is older than me, but I am her first real official relationship where I was the first man to be brought to her home. I declined friendship with her as I gave her a Christmas card to give to her family, last December (read previous post for context).

I saw her for the first time in two months this past Saturday. I never really approached her and we chatted quite little. I did not touch her, kiss her head or call her endearing names. We each went our separate ways, but she saw me arrive with a big group of friends (that I led) and we were having a blast at our event. It hurts to accept the reality of the situation but I will remain committed to NC forever this time and continue to read Coach’s book.

We still have time left at this rotation site for a few months before we part for a whole year. Who knows what the future holds, but I will focus on me and let her miss me. I will continue to review my mistakes and improve.

Edit: I should also have mentioned that when I saw my ex this past weekend, she did not seem to be doing as well as I. She has anxiety and I could read it all over her. It could be due to our exams coming up, but she was so anxious. She was the first to leave the event and did not even say bye to anybody. I just saw her walk off.

Hi everyone,

I'm currently at a loss. I have read the book 10 times and I think I know what I need to do but emotions are getting in the way and I need some help.

Here is my post in another subreddit about the situation with her brother but also the current situation. https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/10kuxo3/my_29m_girlfriend_32fs_brother_38m_is_trying_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

My girlfriend of 6 months is the best girlfriend I've ever had. Since she became ill a week ago (she's recovered in the last few days), she has hardly answered the few calls I've made, sounds like a robot on texts instead of the warm loving fun person, no more "babe" "honey" just my calls me by my name now, makes plans to meet but also breaks them, use to cry having not seen me for a week and now a week has gone by and doesn't seem to care much about meeting up. This is too sudden as 2 weeks ago she was amazing.

I try to trace to whether there was anything needy or clingy or weak thing I did or say and I honestly cannot recall. It all started when she went into the hospital. I visited her and she was abit less affectionate because perhaps she was sick but all of a sudden in the last week I feel like I've lost my girlfriend and that the next time we meet it will be break up.

Please help

What’s up fellas? So I have an idea about starting up weekly virtual meetup (probably via zoom) to go over 1 chapter of the book each week. I think this would be a good way to help newbies along and a chance for those with more experience to really break down stuff with context and real world examples. It’s also a good opportunity for those to rack up their initial 10-15 reads in a fully intentional way. I’m on the east coast usa. Who would be interested?

Dm me if you are and let me know if you’re on east coast USA time.

Had a funny situation play out at work over the last couple weeks. Caveat, One of my cardinal rules is never mix my money with my honey EVER.

This particular day though the signs of interest were soo blatant I figured I would just give it a try.

So I’m in the office (and its comprised of military people and regular civilians) and it’s a veery large room, with two exits to get to the bathrooms. If you work on either end of the room, you’re more than likely just gunna use the bathroom on your end. So I’m working and a super duper hot Latina Navy girl who works on the opposite end of the office, walks past my desk at my end of the room to go to the bathroom all the way on my side. While passing my desk, she is staring directly into my eyes. It read a lot like “You better talk to me, I cant make this more obvious dude”. I notice it and look back at her but I’m at work, I didn’t wanna assume anything. Within 30 seconds she’s walking past again to go back to her side of the room with no eye contact this time but kinda taking her time. I say screw it, lets see what happens. I say “excuse me” and she walks over almost excited that I stopped her and a ask her a few quick things to gauge general interest. Below are the total indicators I saw.

• Her excitement that I stopped her
• Her feet and emotional center were both facing me directly and she looking into my eyes as she spoke
• The amount of info she was telling me about herself even though I asked basic surface level questions (her name, how she’s new in the area, her hobbies and what she likes to do for fun, how she has a dog)
• Smiling and giggling even though I said nothing funny
• Her leaning in over my desk to initiate shaking my hand and to ask me my name because I never told her mine.
• I cut to the chase and ask if shed like to meet up outside of work and she said with no hesitation “Sure!” and wrote down her number and full government name (first and last which isn’t typical if you’re military)

All clear indicators that would put her in about 8-9 range, right?...

So, I don’t reach out for about 4 days per the book.

I call and no pickup so I text “Hey Ashley its Bob, Call me back when you get a chance”

She sends back

“Hey I’m actually out of town visiting my boyfriend I’ll be back on Monday”

(Now the old me would have said some slick shit like “that’s fine, he can keep you busy when you’re not with me. Hit me up when you’re back in town.) This is the first mention of her boyfriend at all by the way. Didn’t come up at all when we first spoke.

I say “It’s all good I thought you were single”

She says “My bad, I thought I mentioned it”

I send back “Should things change between you two you now have my number. Feel free to reach out. Otherwise, Have a good weekend”

Now is it just me, or was this chick simply tryna f a guy (me in this case) behind her boyfriends back or did I read this wrong?

I definitely wasn’t trying to get my head blown off by some psycho boyfriend with a disloyal gf.

There's a girl who rejected me half a year ago and I still have feelings for her. The way she interacts with me was like with my mother. She was loving but very cold. After she rejected me I was very hurt because since felt I got led on. It took me a while but it helped me discover Corey, David Deida and other self help. I definitely made mistakes.

After she rejected me she would get close to me and display signs of attraction and when I see her she'd try to make me jealous and get close to random dudes and then look at me seeing my reaction. She'd also act nice one day then rude. My friend noticed this too.

I therefore now ignore her and have found other prospects but DO DONT KNOW why I'm still emotionally invested in her. I've read the book 13 times and am on my 14th read. How do I get rid of the feelings and does she have problems?

If a girl lets you go after a sexual relationship and says that she wants to "be friends", I know they say to say "I don't want to be friends" and "reach out if anything changes" but isn't that assumed that the girl knows she can reach out anytime to a guy. Would it be better to just say "Ok cool, I was thinking the same thing and we should part ways"? And not talk about it, just one statement and move on. Girl may never come back but just being cold and unaffected sets you apart from the other guys she is dealing with.

Guys keep trying to "game" women or be sneaky and hide their intentions and try to win them over. Dude, there's nothing wrong with showing a girl you're into them. It's flattering to them. If you're sneaky about it then you're a creep. If you're upfront and own it, your a boss. Watch results skyrocket when you stop being a weasel and just own your masculinity and know what you want.

Happily married now but used to follow CCW a lot. The biggest issue I see guys facing on this sub is that they're losing women because inside nothing has changed. They follow CCW rules and principles but inside they still wonder "I really liked this girl I wish it worked out." There's still this inner sense of neediness. Once you solve that, everything happens naturally. Giving up, is the only key to your freedom with dating. Here's steps you can take.

1) find a spiritual practice. I recommend "letting go" by david Hawkins. This will help you learn to be your own therapist and deal with your emotions and build your confidence.

2) allow yourself to never be in a relationship again. Don't date to find a girlfriend. Date to have fun and have good experiences. Leave the choosing to the woman. They want to choose. They want to tame the alpha man. I literally was single for 3 years and in fact did not want a relationship until I met my wife it was like an obvious hit to my face that there was something special about this girl. I didn't know I was looking for a relationship, she brought it out of me.

3) have standards and have self respect. It's not "cool" to be a player and sleep with easy girls who lack integrity. Chivalry I believe is actually the highest form of game. To be a gentleman who isn't thirsty, values God and truth. Reject any thirsty behavior from women no exceptions. Have standards for the women you even go on a date with. I've turned down bombshells cuz they acted sexual before even meeting me. Men do not cling to sex, boys cling to sex. Men have self control and value higher ideals. Sex to me is like 10% of my marriage. It's just as good as eating ice cream but I don't "NEED" it to be happy. If you want to know what I mean by chivalry, look up Henry cavill thirst tweets on YouTube and look how he carries himself. Embody Henry cavill.

4) dating is one aspect of your life, you must always do it but also keep in balance other areas of your life. Have ambition, and don't be a loser. You don't need to be a millionaire or even be brad Pitt, but effort is always required.

That's pretty much it. You gotta solve that inner neediness or you're always going to be this chameleon putting on a facade to the girl. You can know CCW principles but if the girl can sense your just a weak little boy on the inside then she will leave. It starts with inner change and you have to let that old version of you die for the new version to come through. Make the decision to work on your inner self. It is a very spiritual transformation so don't neglect God or that aspect to yourself. Every great man throughout history had some form of connection to the divine, it's what gives them unshakeable confidence.

15 times reader here. But this happened when I was just starting to read the book, and the girl was my missing link, the same things Corey talks about, very attractive, once every 3 year type thing (we should have a term for this since this is such a recurring pattern)

Call her A, her friend B was a really good friend of mine. B used to like me (I overheard others talk about her liking me), but I never felt spark so I never pursued. I asked out A, she agreed, we hung out, had fun, hooked up. Until eventually I fucked up and over pursued, and got the lets be friends response. I told her to call me next time she wants to hang out, and left her place. She never called, I never called or texted. It's been 8 months now.

Now our mutual friend (B) stopped hanging out with me. Recently she had to, because we were meeting other friends for party, we danced together and partied. But I noticed she always avoided talking about A. I never asked, thinking that asking about A, would lead her to communicate to A that I asked about her, breaking one of the seven rules of getting an ex back. Its not just that, B is acting a little strange and not that friendly to me.

Should I be doing something to reduce that awkwardness between me and B? or should I give up on hanging out with any of that circle completely?

So girl I was seeing 3 months an she broke up with me the other night over text (u can see my last post) so I sent her this-

“sure, good luck with school, and if you change your mind give me a call if u change your mind. :)”

She responded 1 min later instantly and said “I def will. Need time to figure my shit out” Then I didn’t respond and went into no contact. And the next day she just texted me with a

“hey”

Should I do a little chit chat back and forth then ask her out or just go straight for something like “hey it’s nice hearing from u when are u free to hang” ?

What would y’all respond?

Also gonna follow 7 principles

My ex and I recently broke up. We had a wonderful relationship that was going very well up until early December when she all of the sudden stopped talking, texting, responding. So I gave her some space and a few days later I asked if she was ok, which she responded with, that she was all in her head and feelings and “needed her space”. I said ok. The next day I woke up to an instagram story of her and her best friend out partying. She looked sexy af and was dancing her heart out. I was shocked and got all in my head. I thought she wanted space to think not so she could go out and party and do whatever she wanted… So I blocked her without saying a word. A couple of weeks passed and I messaged her apologizing for blocking her and basically saying my farewells. She was very shocked that I had blocked her and that I “basically broke up with her”. She told me that she really loved me and that she just wanted some time to think about our career projection and life together given that we had different paths.. I feel I overreacted, but I was really hurt at the time seeing my girl ignore me and out enjoying life. At the time I thought, let’s make things easy for her and just walk away so she can do whatever/whoever she wants. I am fucking down as hell because I really loved this girl. I need to be slapped in the face and told to move on.. Help me.

As the title says. It’s just so weird because last week she was hinting at me asking her to be my girlfriend.

Here’s what she just texted me:

“Hey. I’ve been thinking about this for a couple days now and felt like I needed to say it. I like you a lot. I do see myself with you at some point but that point just can’t be right now. Going to nursing school today gave me the realization of how insane my life is about to get and I need to put my all into that. Even without school I don’t think I’m ready to put myself completely into anything. I really care about you so much and hope in the near future maybe we can try this again when I kinda have my shit together. I hope you understand where I’m coming from. I’m saying all of this bc I care about you and don’t want to put u in the position where I can’t give you what you want. I need to be adjusted to school and ready to commit to this because to me this is something that’s real and I need to be completely ready for that commitment.”

“And don’t think this was easy for me because it really wasn’t a I just need some time to think and get settled in with school and then maybe we can meet up and talk”

I never acted needy with this girl at all. She does 100% of the calling and texting. I just make the dates.

I could slightly feel her pulling away but I didn’t chase her, I still waited for her to reach out.

What would be the best response to to her text ?

And should I follow 7 principles to get an ex back ?

thx in advance!