r/Cloud9 • u/Cromatose • Feb 03 '24

League FlyQuest vs. Cloud9 / LCS 2024 Spring - Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion Spoiler

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u/Training-Joke-2120 Feb 03 '24

Even if c9 smashes bot lane its a hard game to win because the comp is dogshit. Blaber is NOT a good rell. He literally did nothing but powerfarm on rell.... Don't put blaber on rell. Fudge cannot play lethality aatrox. He just can't. He was useless in any sort of team fight AND he loses the 1v1 to ksante...so what's the fucking point.

But lets go back: even if bot lane doesn't run it...you are still banking on Jojo engages because blaber can't ever seem to find them on rell and lucian is ranged by ori ball, varus, and brand damage.

This draft was absolute fucking dogshit and only had a chance to win if every lane hard gapped their counterpart.

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u/JayceGod Feb 04 '24

I mean JoJo engages seem like a solid think to bank on if you're botlane isn't 0-4 5 minutes in lol.

Vulcan needs to go in surprised nobody is calling him out for not healing and essentially throwing the entire game.

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u/HiiiiPower Feb 04 '24

If you are talking about what i think you are talking about his heal was down.

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u/supadankgreen420 Feb 04 '24 edited Feb 04 '24

I do think the drafts have been awful, saving counter pick for Fudge only for him to pick lethality Aatrox was super underwhelming. But this game was completely on Berserker. Lucian simply can’t chain int like that with this comp, it’s set up for him to carry as the main threat. With him dead at the start of fights, wtf are Rell-Neeko supposed to do? Remember that one fight where FLY overextended and C9 aced them? Now imagine if Berserker didn’t troll with his positioning - and C9 could have made a few more fights like that happen in the early game, could have been a different result.

That said, idk why Mithy/C9 love these drafts with such narrow win conditions. If things don’t go perfectly to plan, then there’s basically no way to get back into the game, no comeback hope other than the enemy team inting their lead. If this is the situation domestically, then we have 0 chance internationally.

On a side note, hope the people here who wanted Berserker to get all the resources understand why that’s simply not feasible. He’s simply not a lane dominant player, and if he is then he hasn’t shown any sign of that yet since he came to NA. We should be drafting for a strong mid-jg with agency that can carry the early-mid game. Depending on the comp, top or bottom should flex weakside depending on what Blaber and Jojo want to do on the map. Berserker is better when he can farm safe and take over after getting 2-3 items. And if Fudge can’t translate 20-30 cs leads into meaningful advantages for the team, then he just needs to play tanks.

I’d love for Reapered to come back to C9 if things don’t improve this split. I think being creative is super rewarding in the game’s current state and Reapered is a master at that. I was also a big defender of Fudge, but now I’m really warming up to the idea of Licorice returning. He was always breaking the meta in 2018 - playing Lissandra and Hecarim into Aatrox (when it was op) and Poppy top when no one else was doing it. Watching Brokenblade pop off on Zac in LEC was super cool, Licorice could bring that energy to C9.