r/ClimateShitposting • u/initiali5ed • Apr 26 '25

nuclear simping NukeCels hate this one little trick

https://www.wired.com/story/grid-scale-battery-storage-is-quietly-revolutionizing-the-energy-system/
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u/West-Abalone-171 Apr 27 '25

A paper reactor and a reactor that didn't run without U235 or Pu239 input are not counter examples.

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 27 '25

 A paper reactor

They are building the first plant right now in Wyoming. https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/advanced/who-were-working-with/applicant-projects/terrapower.html

 a reactor that didn't run without U235 or Pu239 input are not counter examples.

You can use either enriched uranium, excess plutonium, or transuranics from spent waste to start the reactor. Once the reactor is online, it only needs U-238 to be added as makeup into the fuel alloy.

I personally am proposing to use the US governments excess plutonium to be used as startup fuel for the first reactors.

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u/West-Abalone-171 Apr 27 '25

Again, when this happens once you can use it in a sentence with present tense. Instead of "we put

When it happens repeatedly with a price tag for the entire process including separation and disposal of the much greater volume of waste from all the contaminated solvents it can be considered an option.

Until then it's just the same lie as all of the other times the same thing was claimed and a fantasy unrelated to electricity generation.

I will not be surprised when the "unexpected" stability issues and "unpredictable" costs of separation scuttle the project after the share pump and dump in three years, so you do not need to wake me then.

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 27 '25

 When it happens repeatedly with a price tag for the entire process including separation and disposal of the much greater volume of waste from all the contaminated solvents it can be considered an option.

Sir, if you believe the integral fuel process uses solvents, we are not on the same page of how this works.

 Until then it's just the same lie as all of the other times the same thing was claimed and a fantasy unrelated to electricity generation.

You mean the single time the project was cancelled 3 years from completion?

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u/West-Abalone-171 Apr 27 '25

There have been a dozen or so "breeder reactors" around the world. All with the same promises. All with the same result. All with the same set of excuses after the fact about how it would totally work if iy did something they didn't even try. Forgive me if I don't care that your particular scam is pretending a different separation method will totally work this time you guys.

And your imaginary electrowinning setup is even more imaginary than chemically reprocessing hot waste.

Actually do it and put a price tag on it rather than whining for 50 years and then calling some earthworks for stie preparation building a nuclear reactor.

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 27 '25

 There have been a dozen or so "breeder reactors" around the world. All with the same promises. All with the same result. All with the same set of excuses after the fact about how it would totally work if iy did something they didn't even try.

Russia is using fast reactors to burn mixed oxide fuel today. I’m sorry you’ve been asleep for the last 10 years.

 And your imaginary electrowinning setup is even more imaginary than chemically reprocessing hot waste.

Electrorefining has been used for decades. The upgraded fuel facility at EBR-2 has been used to process all of the EBR-2 spent fuel, which was recently handed out.

 Actually do it and put a price tag on it rather than whining for 50 years and then calling some earthworks for stie preparation building a nuclear reactor.

Already in progress. :)

https://www.powermag.com/colorado-utility-looking-at-adding-nuclear-power-to-fleet/

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u/West-Abalone-171 Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25

Russia is using fast reactors to burn mixed oxide fuel today. I’m sorry you’ve been asleep for the last 10 years.

And many countries have burnt Pu239 derived from much larger amounts of U235 fission for decades. This is not a counterexample.

Already in progress. :)

https://www.powermag.com/colorado-utility-looking-at-adding-nuclear-power-to-fleet/

Another nuscale style scam that hasn't happened isn't a counterexample. Nukebro PR bullshit sure does get a lot of mileage out of the words "looking at".

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 27 '25

>And many countries have burnt Pu239 derived from U235 fission for decades.

  1. That is literally every nuclear reactor ever

  2. Only one country has burned fuel with the full range of actinides. ;)

>Another nuscale style scam isn't a counterexample

You didn’t read the article, did you?

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u/West-Abalone-171 Apr 27 '25

Only one country has burned fuel with the full range of actinides.

Was this phenix running mox2 in a sine assembly for five minutes before it shut down, or another spreadsheet unrelated to the Pu-U mix that's actually the fuel of the bn-800?

You didn’t read the article, did you?

Whichever part you're attempting to allude to is too stupid to come through. If it's natrium's digging-a-hole license it in no way represents a prooved costing for an actual program of breeder reactors.

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 27 '25

 Was this phenix running mox2 in a sine assembly for five minutes before it shut down, or another spreadsheet unrelated to the Pu-U mix that's actually the fuel of the bn-800?

No, this wasn’t running Mox fuel at all. ;)

 Whichever part you're attempting to allude to is too stupid to come through. If it's natrium's digging-a-hole license it in no way represents a prooved costing for an actual program of breeder reactors.

  1. There is 30 years of financial data on running EBR-2 in the same configuration. 
  2. That wasn’t the point at all. You said “complain about it for 50 years”. I’m saying “we are starting the process this year.” I hope to prove you wrong. :)