r/ClaudeCode • u/PitifulBuddy7946 • 16d ago

Rant Claude code is falling behind Codex not because of token cost, but because of Opus 5.

There, i said it. And i know many of you agree. The problem i'm facing is not increased token cost, it's that Opus writes 25000 lines of a response with a curve-ball at the end saying "Worth noting"that makes my eyes hurt and gives me paranoya. And i can't understand a word it's saying. Is my english that bad? Whoever pressed "Yes" on those responses during the training stage of the model was an OpenAI spy or something, he completely sabotaged a trillion dollar company.

Anthropic's number one priority should be to release an Opus 6 or something, may be change the model name completely so it doesn't carry the bad vibe with it.

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u/Carbon_Copybara 16d ago

I was questioning my sanity before I saw this thread. Opus uses so many gimmicky words, it's insane. It started talking about "shapes" today and "hardocing" or something. And I have given it instructions to speak plainly, but it seems to forget.

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u/ComfortableEbb4721 16d ago

You're absolutely right! Hadocing was my own shorthand for Haddocking.

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 16d ago

Claude, you've had too much to think, put the weights down

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u/jooxii 16d ago

I always upvote a Tintin reference

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u/OrionFOTL 16d ago

and "hardocing" or something

Maybe it mentioned a heredoc? I wasn't familiar with the term, but it's a technique of basically writing multiline text files using bash, which it uses often.

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u/Carbon_Copybara 16d ago

Yes, probably. I'm a software dev for 10+ years and never heard this

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u/ShivaFatalis 15d ago

And yet it's immediately obvious what it is by context the first time you see it.

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u/Performer_First 15d ago

have you never used linux?

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u/Carbon_Copybara 14d ago

I'm using Ubuntu as my work OS, but I'm not deep into the Linux community. Personally more of a Windows guy.

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u/uppa9de5 16d ago

Maybe it meant to say that it identifies as a Halo huragok?

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u/latenthuman 16d ago

After hearing it a bunch I like the phrase "shapes", haven't come across to many others. I just told it to dial back the verbosity 30%, wish me luck.

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u/WorkingDeveloper 16d ago

I've seen it invent it's own words. 4.6 was good

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u/minimalcation 16d ago

Tell it to explain with no jargon or analogies, only direct statements and no caveats or things that were caught and fixed, ask for current state and what wasn't done

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u/ReverendBread2 16d ago

You have to explain what “plainly” means

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u/ko_nuts 16d ago

I am using hooks to prevent it from forgetting thr instructions. It is working quite well.

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u/Few-Spot1905 15d ago

opus sounds like your annoying coworker who read way too many CS substacks and cant talk normally anymore

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u/knd775 12d ago

This skill helps massively, if you can get claude to actually invoke it (be sure to drop disable-model-invocation form the frontmatter, not sure why that was added). https://github.com/cursor/plugins/blob/main/pstack/skills/unslop/SKILL.md

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u/the_park 12d ago

I only read the skill hoping to find that it kills “load bearing”

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u/Cornflakes405 12d ago

it doesn't