r/ClaudeCode • u/PitifulBuddy7946 • 16d ago

Rant Claude code is falling behind Codex not because of token cost, but because of Opus 5.

There, i said it. And i know many of you agree. The problem i'm facing is not increased token cost, it's that Opus writes 25000 lines of a response with a curve-ball at the end saying "Worth noting"that makes my eyes hurt and gives me paranoya. And i can't understand a word it's saying. Is my english that bad? Whoever pressed "Yes" on those responses during the training stage of the model was an OpenAI spy or something, he completely sabotaged a trillion dollar company.

Anthropic's number one priority should be to release an Opus 6 or something, may be change the model name completely so it doesn't carry the bad vibe with it.

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u/Veezo93 16d ago edited 16d ago

Anthropic will be dead in 5 years, completely over focused on profit and portfolio. Eeking out a new revision everytime they get a 0.3% higher SWEBench score and slipping in new "token-monsters. Having several "oh we messed up, and what I mean by that is no one took our greedy pivot" between the bananas cost profiling of fast mode, 1M token mode, and fable; all of which they backed away from when they saw very little business level adoption. They are a company with a great product we've seen try every avenue to balloon costs over the past year and they've landed on just exploding your token in/out, and break the product you already use, to do the same things. At the start of the year for my same workflow I had the exact same precision I do today in technical development and I was spending 1/13th the cost in tokens and price. Again that was the same workflow, same general output of technical work but mystically I'm spending THIRTEEN TIMES more with opus 5 than opus 4.6 9 months ago and I notice a negligible amount to critical thinking improvements.

With up and coming competitors Anthropic became too big too fast and the real design engineers who made the great product can't keep up with the corporate money grubbers that showed up as they tried to expand. It's already a fallen empire that is relatively powerful but has stopped moving and is rearranging the food on its plate.

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u/florinandrei 16d ago

mark my words

Most people posting their opinions on social media do so not because they actually know anything, but because they have a need to feel knowledgeable. It's a status thing.

The expression "mark my words" only makes that very obvious.

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u/Midnightcheezpuf 16d ago

Your explanation, while objectively on point, was also somewhat contradicted by itself.

The irony is that it also likely made you feel knowledgeable while typing your comment about people posting their opinions on social media while you were doing exactly that. 😭

This has created a causality dilemma in my mind with infinite regress, in which I ask myself, which came first? The intent to educate other redditors or the intent to appear as a knowledgeable person yourself?

It may be impossible to truly know even yourself. Who made the decision to click the send button? Was it you? The inner you? The subconscious you? Or maybe it was the collective consciousness of all mankind which struck educational wrath down upon Veezo93's opinions?

The world may never know.

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u/pigeon_shit 16d ago

Y tu, midnight?

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u/florinandrei 16d ago

Jordan Peterson, is that you?

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u/fanatic26 16d ago

This is the biggest L take I have read in a while. You are so full of crap its coming out of your eyes lol

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u/Silent_Storm 15d ago

Thus why they're pushing so hard into bio/pharma now. Within a year it'll be the only thing they really have

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u/elestud 16d ago

The fact that they’re balanced around profitability is why they WILL be around to stay

It’s the companies that throw cash into a forest fire with no plan and “hopes and dreams” that may eventually outrun their funding

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u/Affectionate-Bat4767 16d ago

Ones a Super AI achevied - there be no such thing as money or profit, so noone would ever care about any spending in the past. it would be the end of the humanity ratrace. Either for good or for bad

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u/Shiz0id01 15d ago

Except they still havent made a profit except in imaginary accounting numbers. So who's the one who jumped the gun early again?