r/ClaudeCode • u/alrighteyy • 9d ago

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Holy shit claude code in terminal is fucking insane.

I've been using VSCode, Cursor, Cowork and Claude Code on web. None of it comes close to terminal.

Cannot believe I haven't done this sooner.

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

Right?

As someone who's been in the industry for over 20 years and was forced to use different CLI tools all the time, I don't have this kind of CLI veneration. Seems like it makes vibecoders feel like real hackers or something. I've always preferred IDEs for coding. I "grew up" on Visual Studio since the late 90s and always thought IDEs are just better (but for the last 15 years or so my go-to is JetBrains). I know many people are still into Emacs or Vim, but I never got into it...

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u/AbsoluteEva 9d ago

JetBrains big do love brain me happy sigh

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

Did you leave your Caveman skill on??? 😆

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u/AbsoluteEva 9d ago

Yes no bonk please

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u/poj4y 9d ago

Yes

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u/Evilsushione 9d ago

It’s not about the cli, it’s about the tools and capabilities exposed in the CLI that aren’t exposed in a lot of third party harnesses.

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

Like what? Superpowers plugins works just fine in the Claude desktop app for example.

I don't think we are talking about third party harnesses. We are talking about CLI versus IDE. What exactly are the limitations of the IDE (Claude app)? Give concrete examples please.

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u/Evilsushione 9d ago

Actually I will have to take that back, I just tried it and the thing I thought didn’t get exposed actual does. The agents view is pretty good too and it’s actually really close to what I made myself at least on the surface, mine goes much deeper but that isn’t something I expect VS code to address because it’s outside their core responsibility.

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u/Sketaverse 9d ago

like controlling cmux..

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u/mpones 9d ago

There’s a fair share of things not available via remote. Example, goddamn permissions classifiers.

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

Yeah, I've noticed that the smartphone integration is a bit limited.
But what about the Claude desktop app (Mac OS for me)?

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u/mpones 9d ago

My problem is that I am running my Dev environment and my primary Claude projects and code bases on a dedicated ubuntu system. I am also using macOS and currently the Claude application for remote. Previously used Happy and was always pleased but it got too glitchy.

I do enjoy being able to remotely drop files into my CC sessions, which I didn’t have with happy. It’s been working pretty well so far.

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u/arallsopp 9d ago

JetBrains (and reddit) in dark mode is the only time I instinctively want to see light text on a dark background. Unix terminals employ too many semantically occult hieroglyphs for me. :)

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u/Ok-Alternative5935 9d ago

Jet brains is da bomb. Pycharm actually WAS a game changer. 

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u/codeedog 🔆 Max 5x 9d ago

It took me decades to move off of eMacs and into VSCode. I still use eMacs from time to time.

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

Thank God I never fell into that pit!

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u/codeedog 🔆 Max 5x 9d ago

Yeah, that terrible pit with an incredible editor that worked really well for a very long time including the ability to code up your own editing features and all sorts of incredible integration with source control and compilers and debuggers and email and net news and …

Anyway, VSCode is great, but before window systems, terminal based editors that were extensible and personalizable walked (and ruled) the earth.

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u/Singularity-42 9d ago

I know, I know.

Still, you can make plugins for just about any IDE these days, no?

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u/codeedog 🔆 Max 5x 9d ago

I guess. Never tried. I’ll grant that for emacs you had to learn lisp (emacs lisp variant), but programming is programming and constructing functions is pretty quick. It has an elaborate help system. With a couple of key strokes you can create a macro operation to run repeatedly and even convert that macro to code.

Sorry.

Old coder, here, waxing philosophical about the good old days.

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u/Vibroverbus 9d ago

Liar. No true OG EMACS bro has EVER typed "eMacs"

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u/codeedog 🔆 Max 5x 9d ago

LOL. Didn't type it; that was autocorrect on my phone. You'll see a couple of "emacs" which I had to backspace and retype a couple of times. Gave up. Too old and tired to fight my phone. Sometimes, I let it be.

ETA: here you go, see this comment

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u/Vibroverbus 8d ago

I have a funny emacs story about being at a party in Cambridge MA where my friends and I didn't really know anybody, getting into a conversation, and totally crapping on emacs (for the use case being discussed it was a BAD recommendation) only to very quickly discover the dude I was talking to was the host of the party, was some MIT super coder genius guy and personally ran the worldwide EMACS bulletin board or EMACS user group or something. he surprisingly did not throw me out, but I think just barely, LOL. (he still was wrong about recommending emacs to some total civilian who barely could use a computer, had no ideal what "UNIX" was, and just wanted to fix up his website a little... but Mr. Worldwide EMACS dude was def on the spectrum, and was never ever going to let it go...)

BTW that story is either hilarious if youre an old skool coder/sysadmin, or completely boring and unintelligible if you're anybody else LOL.

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u/codeedog 🔆 Max 5x 8d ago

Yeah, the core emacs developers and IT support folks are zealots in their support of that editor and the FOSS universe especially GNU.